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#4601404 - 12/12/17 09:20 AM Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on
redhat Offline


Registered: 12/07/12
Posts: 1715
Loc: Anywhere, USA
We've been getting a bit of snow here in WNY/Buffalo as of late.

On my Accord.

I had already switched over to my winter set of wheels and was running an about half good set of 2011 Cooper Weather Master S/T 2. Last year, I had bought these tires used with about 9-11/32 for $200. It appears as if the dry/highway running had really taken a lot of tread off of these as this year, before the switch over, we are at a solid 6/32 for all four.

Sunday we had a fair amount of frigid precipitation. I had to do a considerable amount of rocking back and forth to get out of where my car was parked. Besides that, I could easily break the tires loose, easily spin in rain (with a heavier than normal foot) and was feeling generally uneasy about the condition of these tires. Also, under closer inspection, I think a lot of the tire's siping is gone... I see myself looking mainly at solid tread blocks.

With that said, as of yesterday I wanted a new set. I knew that tomorrow (today) we were expected to receive more snow and wanted to avoid a potentially bad situation. I looked around and wanted something local and that day. I ended up deciding upon the Firestone Winterforce 2. They have a re-designed treat pattern which I can't say I hate. I do like them. I find them to be a bit less aggressive than say a General Altimax Arctic, but I do not see any reason why they will not perform. I know a lot of folks who swore by the original Winterforce (and swore about the noise when on the highway!)

Price
$83 per tire
$540 with tax, mount/balance and road hazard

Added bonus, put it on the CFNA credit card with 6mo no interest. Will pay off after the holidays/tax time. Not that I am broke, just a nice convenience. I used to always order off of the internet and find a shop to mount/balance and I used to never pay for road hazard. Sometimes it is just a lot less hassle to go somewhere. Especially when time is not on your side. As of late, when trying to find a place to mount/balance tires, I've had to either deal with a lot of attitude from the shop or prices that plain old stunk.

Traction is great, these things were digging through 4-5 inches no problem. I pulled out of my spot without any spinning. So far so good.





Edited by redhat (12/12/17 09:20 AM)
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#4601420 - 12/12/17 09:28 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
Posts: 307
Loc: NC
Good looking tire. I have the original Winterforces on the CR-V. I really like them and was really glad we had them on this past weekend. They seem to wear really good for a winter tire too.

I also had a set of studded Cooper Weather Masters on the '00 Civic for a few winters. That thing would push snow with the bumper.
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#4601435 - 12/12/17 09:41 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1864
Loc: Chicago, IL
Looks great, they were a contender when I was shopping earlier this year for a value snow tire. I ended up with the AltiMAX Arctic 12s, which is another model that is new for this year. I have the old Winterforce tires on my Element, and like you said, they work, but they're a little loud. To my untrained eye, the new Winterforce 2 looks like they would be a lot quieter than the old model since the old one a lot of horizontal tread block edges compared to the angled tread blocks on the Arctic 12 and Winterforce 12s. Plus the new one has a continuous center rib.

Old Winterforce


You'll have to keep us updated on the performance since it's a new model. I'll try do the same with the AltiMAX Arctic 12.

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#4601445 - 12/12/17 09:52 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Originally Posted By: redhat
Price
$83 per tire
$540 with tax, mount/balance and road hazard

$200 for install fees and road hazard coverage? Yikes.

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#4601453 - 12/12/17 09:57 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
redhat Offline


Registered: 12/07/12
Posts: 1715
Loc: Anywhere, USA
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Originally Posted By: redhat
Price
$83 per tire
$540 with tax, mount/balance and road hazard

$200 for install fees and road hazard coverage? Yikes.


Do you not pay tax?

Also, TPMS service, the TPMS kits. I have no problem opting for the service kits for the new nuts and rubber grommets.


Edited by redhat (12/12/17 09:58 AM)
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#4601454 - 12/12/17 09:59 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
I have these on my short list at Tire Rack, I just haven't hit the checkout button yet.

They look a lot more aggressive in your pic than they do in the promo pic. That might keep me away.

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#4601455 - 12/12/17 09:59 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Ah, forgot about TPMS. My Accord doesn't use them. smile

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#4601498 - 12/12/17 10:34 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
LC Offline


Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 508
Loc: Wisconsin
I put a set of the Winterforce2 on my new Jeep Compass Trailhawk. So far I am very happy with them. Road noise is very little compared to the old versions. I have not had to drive in any deep snow yet, but plenty of ice and packed snow and I am very satisfied with their performance.
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#4601556 - 12/12/17 11:45 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12651
Loc: NE,Ohio
I have the blizzak dmv2 in 245/70r17 on my 2017 cherokee trailhawk..

Almost fell today.. didnt realize the slush had refrozen... didnt slip even abit.

I'm sure the winterforce2 are a massive upgrade over the extremely old design winterforce.
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#4601634 - 12/12/17 01:04 PM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
I still wish Firestone would dip into the Bridgestone Blizzak well of knowledge and produce an inexpensive ice tire, even if it's an older Blizzak design.

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#4601666 - 12/12/17 01:34 PM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 870
Loc: pa
some winter tyres have softer compound outside then firm not so winter compound underneath. discount tyre had a great thanksgiving sale + as always free ship + no xtras, got TPM rebuild kits free. i shop around but discount tyre always wins!!! buying tyres on sale before you need them is a good move as well!!!

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#4601692 - 12/12/17 01:52 PM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
redhat Offline


Registered: 12/07/12
Posts: 1715
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In the store, the Winterforce 2 seemed very pliable. A close second to the DM-V1 that I was checking out.

Another big thing is getting the put on, it seems everywhere I go it is such a hassle to get anyone to take $60-100 to mount and balance tires. To me that is a lot of change.

I once went into a PepBoys and wanted (8) loose tires in the back of the truck balanced. Quoted me $160. I laughed and walked out.
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#4601785 - 12/12/17 03:38 PM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
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Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 1397
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
I still wish Firestone would dip into the Bridgestone Blizzak well of knowledge and produce an inexpensive ice tire, even if it's an older Blizzak design.


Maybe that is what these are, with a unique tread design? Who knows...
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#4601915 - 12/12/17 06:00 PM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: redhat]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 9092
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I've always stayed away from winter tires with a rounded shoulder, as I find the square shoulder helps in the deep stuff if you get some drifting going. My parents got some toyo celcius 4 season tires with a rounded shoulder so I'll have to try them out and see how much difference it makes.
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#4602512 - 12/13/17 11:36 AM Re: Firestone Winterforce 2 in 215/60R16, just put on [Re: WishIhadatruck]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
I still wish Firestone would dip into the Bridgestone Blizzak well of knowledge and produce an inexpensive ice tire, even if it's an older Blizzak design.

Maybe that is what these are, with a unique tread design? Who knows...

Not if these are designed and marketed as a studdable snow tire.

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