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07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 #4600897
12/11/17 06:23 PM
12/11/17 06:23 PM
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Posts: 105
College Place, WA
albertdi Offline OP
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Here's my latest UOA. New microgreen filter installed w/ sample. Previous filter a WIX.



'13 KTM Duke 690
'11 Honda Fit Sport
'09 Aprilia Sport City One 125
'07 Honda Fit Sport
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4600902
12/11/17 06:29 PM
12/11/17 06:29 PM
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Posts: 14,127
Illinois
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Another fine report with extended oil changes using 0-20 oil. Where is all the wear numbers? shrug


2007 Ford Fusion 239,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 67K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4600910
12/11/17 06:42 PM
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Wet side WA
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Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.


2004 Corolla 130005
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4600913
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.





So have his oil change intervals.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: PimTac] #4600917
12/11/17 06:55 PM
12/11/17 06:55 PM
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Illinois
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.





So have his oil change intervals.


Also the acceptable limits for iron is 150 PPM.


2007 Ford Fusion 239,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 67K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4600932
12/11/17 07:09 PM
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Canyon County Idaho
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AFe in 20 or 30 is a great oil.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4601012
12/11/17 08:46 PM
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Florida
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The 1.5L in the Fit never ceases to amaze me. I swear, it's probably Honda's cleanest running engine, based on UOA results of extended OCI.

With a quart of make up oil, this oil can easily do 15,000 miles in this engine.


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4601048
12/11/17 09:29 PM
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Michigan
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Mine sounds like a diesel at 6000 miles on the oil,
How does yours sound at 10k?


Ridgeline, Dmax, Ford 3.5
Oil Whisperer!*Fear the DINO*
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: stockrex] #4601087
12/11/17 10:27 PM
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CA
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Originally Posted By: stockrex
Mine sounds like a diesel at 6000 miles on the oil,
How does yours sound at 10k?

Have you tried adjusting the valve clearance?


2011 Toyota Prius 1.8L - 185K - SuperTech Dexos Full Syn 0W-20
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 135K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: tig1] #4601091
12/11/17 10:29 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.





So have his oil change intervals.


Also the acceptable limits for iron is 150 PPM.


LOL acceptable not by my standards.


2004 Corolla 130005
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4601245
12/12/17 07:05 AM
12/12/17 07:05 AM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.


"Substantially" and "statistically significant" are almost always two completely different things for most people... one is off gut feel/ shock value, the other is from data.

My iron number on my Fusion has increased from 7 to 18 ppm, but my OCI has gone from 7k to over 17k. You might call this Iron number a substantial increase, but statistics show that the wear rate has only gone up .07ppm/1k miles, and that there is absolutely no statistical difference between the wear rates at 7k or 17k in my engine, which means the engine doesn't know or care about the difference. That's from 100k of UOA data.

Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4601264
12/12/17 08:07 AM
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Down Under
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Wow that is pretty good, 15 ppm iron over 12600 miles.

The TBN is at 4 but hard to know exactly what it would have been without that make up qt.

Either way, very impressive for both the oil and the engine. I like how you are pushing some real distance.

Nice work.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: albertdi] #4601345
12/12/17 09:46 AM
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New York Queens
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Wow looks good really no need for M1 0w20EP


2013 Malibu 2LT M1 5w30
2013 Accord Sport M1 AP 0w20
Re: 07 Honda Fit Sport (L15A) Mobil 1 AFE 0W/20 12,620 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4601359
12/12/17 09:55 AM
12/12/17 09:55 AM
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Illinois
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seems like your Iron numbers have increased substantially.





So have his oil change intervals.


Also the acceptable limits for iron is 150 PPM.


LOL acceptable not by my standards.


I understand that, but apparently 150 PPM is the standard the labs have determined to be acceptable. I don't even find it necessary to do routine UOA. LOL!


2007 Ford Fusion 239,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 67K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

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