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#4599669 - 12/10/17 08:59 AM You Want To See Tight Formation ?
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#4599684 - 12/10/17 09:10 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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I'd bet on radar that looks like a single blip.

GO NAVY!

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#4599690 - 12/10/17 09:14 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
4WD Online   confused


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Best not stir up a hornets nest wink

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#4599698 - 12/10/17 09:20 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: 4WD]
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
Best not stir up a hornets nest wink



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#4599701 - 12/10/17 09:22 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: SLO_Town]
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F/A-18 Hornet (or Super Hornet)

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#4599705 - 12/10/17 09:25 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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Nobody does close formation better than the Blue Angels.

Thunderbirds put on a really great show, I was inspired to fly when I first saw the Thunderbirds at Pease AFB over 30 years ago, but they're a lot farther apart.

I'll pause here while the USAF fan-boys attempt to deny the reality...


Edited by Astro14 (12/10/17 09:26 AM)
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#4599713 - 12/10/17 09:37 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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Saw the Blue Angels at an air show about 20 years ago. Gave me goosebumps. Simply amazing.
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#4599714 - 12/10/17 09:41 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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GO NAVY! I make it a point to see them when they fly out of Republic Airport and do the airshow at Jones Beach.
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#4599717 - 12/10/17 09:42 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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The Blue Angles are the best . What a work out doing that kind of flying.
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#4599723 - 12/10/17 09:46 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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The Thunderbirds are kind of boring compared to the Blue Angels.

First show I saw with the Skyhawks was amazing..... the Hornets make it even a better show.

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#4599724 - 12/10/17 09:48 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
billt460 Offline


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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
I read somewhere that their planes are set up for flying with the pilots having to resist a lot of forward pressure constantly being applied on the stick. Does anyone know the reason for that? This is all I could find.

"“Springs” refers to the mechanical device that Blue Angels jets have attached to the control stick that creates 7 pounds of forward pressure, which allows pilots more positive control and allows them to fly smoother."

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/h...o-super-hornets

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#4599753 - 12/10/17 10:26 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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Loc: Ca.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgIlKRj68qQ

Start at 1:29 and tell me who flies closer.

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#4599782 - 12/10/17 10:58 AM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: Astro14]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
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Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Nobody does close formation better than the Blue Angels.

Thunderbirds put on a really great show, I was inspired to fly when I first saw the Thunderbirds at Pease AFB over 30 years ago, but they're a lot farther apart.

I'll pause here while the USAF fan-boys attempt to deny the reality...
Does the air force land their planes on aircraft carriers
as a hide standard operating procedure?
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#4599839 - 12/10/17 12:08 PM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
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Loc: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: billt460
I read somewhere that their planes are set up for flying with the pilots having to resist a lot of forward pressure constantly being applied on the stick. Does anyone know the reason for that? This is all I could find.

"“Springs” refers to the mechanical device that Blue Angels jets have attached to the control stick that creates 7 pounds of forward pressure, which allows pilots more positive control and allows them to fly smoother."

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/h...o-super-hornets


The spring adds about 30# of force to the stick, pulling it forward. The Blues feel that the constant pull allows more precise control of pitch.

The pilots lift weights every day and run every day. Cardio workouts to sustain the level of effort and strength training to handle both the stick forces and G forces. They fly without G-suits, as their stick arm (right arm) rests on their right thigh. The inflation/deflation of the G suit is thought to move the fulcrum on which they move the stick and degrade precision.

I don't agree with the last point, having flown a lot of formation, and having flown the F/A-18, but it is their position that it improves precision.

Flying without a G suit in a 7.5G airplane has also killed some of the Blue Angel pilots, including a friend named Kevin Colling.

What these guys do is tremendously challenging. They do it incredibly well.

But it is not without risk. .
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#4599852 - 12/10/17 12:36 PM Re: You Want To See Tight Formation ? [Re: billt460]
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Both teams are amazing, from their talent to their training to the machines they fly. They are incredible to watch and both bring a huge sense of pride to the combined military forces of the US.

One doesn't have to be 'better'. You don't have to choose one.

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