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interesting negotiation bot. #4598775
12/09/17 07:57 AM
12/09/17 07:57 AM
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Texas
JustinH Offline OP
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So I signed up for this negotiation bot called Trim.

www.asktrim.com

It does two things, it monitors your Internet Service for outages, then automatically contacts the ISP and asks for a credit.

The second thing it does is bill negotiation.

I have Spectrum cable, internet only and they will not negotiate off the $64.99 base price for anything.

So I gave it a shot.

One week later, the bot negotiated $287.14 in bill credits applied to my account, in approximately 80 dollar increments for the next few months.

I have no idea what it did, and the spectrum website is down for right now, but I did verify that my upcoming bill will be free for the next few months.

Anyways its a pretty neat service I would recommend it.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598796
12/09/17 08:29 AM
12/09/17 08:29 AM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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The land of USA-made Subies!
And what do they get out of it? It's impossible to get something for nothing, both you and Trim.

Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598800
12/09/17 08:38 AM
12/09/17 08:38 AM
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Why do I have to login with my name phonenumber and bank account.. uh.. uh...

DO they REALLY think I will log into their account with my bank info???


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598803
12/09/17 08:40 AM
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Yea im not sure about the bank info, Ill probably start with a credit card.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598804
12/09/17 08:41 AM
12/09/17 08:41 AM
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Upper Midwest
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Something smells bad about this. I donít know what exactly but it does.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598837
12/09/17 09:11 AM
12/09/17 09:11 AM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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The land of USA-made Subies!
So I did a little digging, I did find some articles on CNN Money website. Appears legit... but still unsure.

Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598864
12/09/17 09:56 AM
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Lyndhurst NJ
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Says it takes 25% of annual savings, but only if it saves you money.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4598869
12/09/17 10:04 AM
12/09/17 10:04 AM
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Texas
JustinH Offline OP
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They take 25 percent of what they save and bill it to a credit card you put on file.

Since I was saving zero dollars calling them myself, I welcome paying their fee.

Also I am not monitoring the spectrum network 24x7. People in my area get emails from spectrum saying sorry that the service was down, here is the credit you asked for.

The network was down while they were sleeping, and the bot still asked for credit.

I'll post screenshots of my spectrum pdf bill, but their website login is down right now for me.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4598886
12/09/17 10:33 AM
12/09/17 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
And what do they get out of it? It's impossible to get something for nothing, both you and Trim.


Their website says that if they negotiate a credit for you, say $100, they keep the first $25 and you keep the $75.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599002
12/09/17 01:08 PM
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Can the bot get you back on the promotion rate after the year promotion expires ? My bill is going to jump from $40 to $60 after the promo expires unless I come up with a way to negotiate back to the promo rate.

Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599093
12/09/17 03:01 PM
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There are actually a few bots like this online went for A.I. but they tailor them for random stuff. This is most likely one of those things. I heard about a similar bot that could be used on a buying/selling forum essentially you would list items for sale (what your asking, the minimum you would sell it for, a consideration amount).

The bots would than talk to each other to find out who had what and what they wanted. From what I heard it was pretty effective until the bot started making some connections in negotiating tactics and just started lying about stuff they had to get a better deal for something the other party really wanted with the idea the second party would also get something they where desperately looking for.

Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599194
12/09/17 05:13 PM
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What the heck.. I have a disposable bank account with about 50 bucks in it... I might give this a go.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599215
12/09/17 05:35 PM
12/09/17 05:35 PM
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Interesting but I have reservations.


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Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599389
12/09/17 08:59 PM
12/09/17 08:59 PM
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North Carolina
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Thanks! It knocked $40 off my mediacom bill. Not sure why or how.

Re: interesting negotiation bot. [Re: JustinH] #4599394
12/09/17 09:22 PM
12/09/17 09:22 PM
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South Florida
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Just attach a credit card that you dont use to the account, if you have reservations. If there is any fraud, you wont be liable for any of it on a VISA, MasterCard, Discover, or Amex, for sure.


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