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Towing Novice, need help with tow rating #4597990
12/08/17 12:28 PM
12/08/17 12:28 PM
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Panama City, FL
FLORIDA Offline OP
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Hey folks I'm getting ready to shop for a travel trailer for my new 2017 F150 2.7. I was under the impression that the 2.7 was good to 8,100 per literature from fords website but upon a VIN search I see max tow at 5,000 but I'm just not sure that im interpreting it right. I no longer have the original sticker for the truck that would show what tow package I have, but it does have the larger mirrors, along with the 4 and 7 pin connector. Below is the info from a VIN search, I also know that I have the 3.31 gear.

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front 3225 lbs 3225.0 min 3450.0 max

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear 3300 lbs 3300.0 min 3300.0 max

Curb Weight - Front 2548 lbs 2548.0 min 2726.0 max

Curb Weight - Rear 1846 lbs 1846.0 min 1895.0 max

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap 6250, 6900, 6750, 6100 lbs 6100.0 min 7850.0 max (My door sticker says 6250lb)

Gross Combined Wt Rating 9800 lbs 9800.0 min 10100.0 max

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 5000 lbs 5000.0 min 5000.0 max

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 500 lbs 500.0 min 500.0 max

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 5000 lbs 5000.0 min 5000.0 max


Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 500 lbs 500.0 min 500.0 max


Maximum Trailering Capacity 5000 lbs 5000.0 min 5000.0 max

Thats what came up from entering my VIN in a vin decoder. Can someone please help a newbie understand these numbers? Looking forward to learning here. Thanks.

Last edited by FLORIDA; 12/08/17 12:29 PM.
Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4597996
12/08/17 12:36 PM
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5,000 lbs is your max with a 500lb tongue wt. That's not going to tow much of a travel trailer.


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Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598000
12/08/17 12:47 PM
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I'd go talk to an experienced RV place or a trailer fabricator and get their interpretation of the law in your state for towing. They should know which parts of the manufacturers ratings you have follow, typically axle ratings, and which you don't, perhaps the maximum tow rating.
I wouldn't totally ignore the manufacturers tow ratings as there is some engineering behind those numbers, but do some research before you buy a new truck to tow the 5500lb trailer of your dreams...


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Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598007
12/08/17 12:54 PM
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I'd go to the dealer or email Ford for a real buildsheet, I don't trust those online things. It's gotta be higher than 5000, my Liberty and old Cherokee are both rated for 5000lbs/700ish lbs tongue weight.


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Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598015
12/08/17 12:58 PM
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Panama City, FL
FLORIDA Offline OP
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I'm not far off from what I need at 5,000lb anyways. I would have really likes a 4600lb trailer with a gvwr of around 6,000 to give me some room for gear, but I've found several trailers that would suit at 3300-3800 which still has some room for 1200-1500lb of stuff to stay under my 5,000lb tow rating. I just want to find out what my weak link is to get to that max tow rating for the 2.7 which I believe is in the high 7k low 8k numbers. Trans cooler, hitch, gear, idk.

Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598027
12/08/17 01:10 PM
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Max combined weight of the whole rig = 9800
Empty curb weight of truck = 2548 + 1846 = 4394

So that allows for 5400 lb trailer with truck completely empty (no fuel or driver).

Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598030
12/08/17 01:12 PM
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"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598036
12/08/17 01:16 PM
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Waco, TX
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IMHO (we all have one)....

Go with a 5th wheel RV.

I pull a 31' Forest River (8,300 lbs) with my F150 just fine.
I'd never go bumper pull again in a million years.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598039
12/08/17 01:23 PM
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Jupiter, Florida
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Ford rates the 2.7 with the 3.31 rear axle at a minimum of 7500 and a maximum of 7600 pounds, depending on model.

You might be able to find a digital copy of the window sticker from the original dealership.

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/17RV&TT_Ford_F150_Sep7.pdf

Last edited by Cujet; 12/08/17 01:27 PM.

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Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: Linctex] #4598040
12/08/17 01:24 PM
12/08/17 01:24 PM
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Panama City, FL
FLORIDA Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
IMHO (we all have one)....

Go with a 5th wheel RV.

I pull a 31' Forest River (8,300 lbs) with my F150 just fine.
I'd never go bumper pull again in a million years.


I looked for 5th wheels within my tow rating but they seem to be non existent.

Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: Cujet] #4598041
12/08/17 01:25 PM
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Panama City, FL
FLORIDA Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Ford rates the 2.7 with the 3.31 rear axle at a minimum of 7600 pounds towing and goes up from there. I suspect your truck may even be rated for as much as 8300.

You might be able to find a digital copy of the window sticker from the original dealership.


yes I just emailed the saleswoman I used with the VIN and requested the window sticker.

Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598044
12/08/17 01:29 PM
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Jupiter, Florida
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Just an FYI, I edited my post. I noticed my error was the 3.55 axle is the one that can tow 8300.


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Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598049
12/08/17 01:34 PM
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Panama City, FL
FLORIDA Offline OP
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I just contacted my saleswoman. She said the 2.7 w/3.31 gear and 145" wheelbase is good for 7600lb. She is also mailing me the original window sticker.

Why can't I find a 7600lb number through my research, while that is the number they give me?

Last edited by FLORIDA; 12/08/17 01:35 PM.
Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598055
12/08/17 01:39 PM
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In the meantime you can use this site to get a digital copy of the window sticker:
https://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Number-Lookup/WindowSticker/Ford.html

Remember to follow the manufacturer's guidelines. The Ford literature is good at explaining all the #s.
Use the payload capacity on the door jamb as a guide and remember to total up all the people and junk in the truck + the tongue weight. All the extra junk should not exceed the payload.

Re: Towing Novice, need help with tow rating [Re: FLORIDA] #4598059
12/08/17 01:45 PM
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The door tag should have the GCWR of the truck. Get the truck weighed, then subtract that from the sticker. That's the truck's towing / cargo capacity.

Remember that passengers, gear, cargo all subtract from what the truck is able to tow. If your truck is rated for 7500 from the factory, a travel trailer salesperson will try to sell you a 7500 pound travel trailer. Once you load it up, and get the family and gear in, you're overloaded.

Just something to keep in mind


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