Recent Topics
Toyota 2TR-FE 2.7 questions
by Doublehaul. 12/12/18 12:32 AM
Anybody used Eurolub?
by FordCapriDriver. 12/12/18 12:18 AM
Micro-Green Cut Open
by David1. 12/11/18 11:45 PM
Witch way does this valve work?
by Dylan1303. 12/11/18 11:42 PM
Santa came early..
by leoblack9. 12/11/18 11:22 PM
dropped a zip tie in my prius trans
by eljefino. 12/11/18 09:54 PM
2 Cello's - Some talented fellows right here.
by StevieC. 12/11/18 09:49 PM
Something different for sure - Punjabi Celtic
by StevieC. 12/11/18 09:40 PM
Honda eu200i hiccuping @ low idle - fixed
by Jmoney7269. 12/11/18 09:34 PM
Your dealer is here - Humor
by StevieC. 12/11/18 08:46 PM
1994 Honda Civic LX Main Relay-solder
by Gito. 12/11/18 08:43 PM
Winter/Summer Fuel Economy
by RayCJ. 12/11/18 08:33 PM
0w20 oils - NOACK
by superangrypenguin. 12/11/18 08:19 PM
Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 5w20 API SN
by Johnny248. 12/11/18 08:15 PM
Buy a brand new 1966-1977 Ford Bronco
by StevieC. 12/11/18 07:50 PM
2012 Accord,QSUD 5W20,WIX 57356 filter,3K miles
by aquariuscsm. 12/11/18 07:05 PM
Check out this awsome work!
by Chris142. 12/11/18 06:47 PM
200,000 miles
by Marco620. 12/11/18 06:29 PM
Newest Members
tcoffin014, Schm1d, EagleC, Dinka, MechanicGuy
66654 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
21 registered members (Donald1953, Exhaustgases, BigShug681, billt460, ctechbob, CleverUserName, 1 invisible), 811 guests, and 37 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics294,961
Posts4,924,867
Members66,654
Most Online2,553
Oct 27th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats #4597571
12/07/17 09:37 PM
12/07/17 09:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT
1998chevy Offline OP
1998chevy  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT
Hello,
I have a Pentastar 3.6L that I recently changed the oil on. Upon removal of the oil filter I noticed that the filter pleats were somewhat distorted. It doesn't appear that the filter media was breached, but the amount of distortion is somewhat concerning to me. The filter was run for approximately 8000 miles from January 2017 through November 2017. The oil used with the filter was Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20. Both the old and new filters in the pictures are NAPA (Wix) 7526.
Does anyone have any thought, comments or prior experience to share related to the Pentastar oil filters?



Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597578
12/07/17 09:43 PM
12/07/17 09:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,137
NE,Ohio
Rand Offline
Rand  Offline
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,137
NE,Ohio
I went back to the mopar filter. I tried a fram ultra and it was very slightly long.

I had a hard time getting it to click into the cap.. (really hard time)

and when I took it off after 6500 miles it was wavy(not that bad)
and still super hard to pull off the cap.

Went back to the overpriced mopar. It wasnt wavy after use.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597580
12/07/17 09:45 PM
12/07/17 09:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Offline
StevieC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
I'm using Wix in my dad's 2012 which is one filter design and in my FIL's van which is a 2017 with the revised filter design and none of them look like that upon changing it. My dad uses conventional oil and my FIL is using Amsoil. shrug

Are you possibly over tightening the filter housing and "Squishing" the filter too far in? It should just be snugged on the O-Ring. Is the Wix a few millimeters longer than the mopar and maybe this is why? You can tighten all the way with a Mopar and it won't squish but with the wix being slightly longer if you over tighten the housing maybe it's squishing it slightly? Just a thought...

It being wavy is not a concern. It being torn/ripped would be and that isn't happening so it has no effect on the engine.

Last edited by StevieC; 12/07/17 09:49 PM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - AMSOIL SS 5w20
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597590
12/07/17 09:51 PM
12/07/17 09:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Offline
StevieC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
I just noticed something... What year is your PentaStar. That filter in the pictures is only for the earlier PentaStars like from 2011/2012. If it's later than that then it's the wrong filter for the application and you need the other one. The old filter design (your pictures) will incorrectly fit in the newer revised filter housings unfortunately so you could be using the wrong filter if this is the case.

Later PentaStar engines require this filter revision:
(Top of the filter with the green o-ring goes into the housing, flat part at the bottom of the filter clips into housing cap.)


Last edited by StevieC; 12/07/17 09:57 PM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - AMSOIL SS 5w20
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: Rand] #4597593
12/07/17 09:55 PM
12/07/17 09:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,501
Clovis, CA
Merkava_4 Offline
Merkava_4  Offline
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,501
Clovis, CA
Doesn't anybody make a wire backed cartridge filter for it ?

Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597595
12/07/17 09:56 PM
12/07/17 09:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 173
South Texas
Insertcoolname Offline
Insertcoolname  Offline
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 173
South Texas
I get the wix or purolator. I've had great results with both purolator and wix cartridges in my friends wrangler 3.6 pentastar.
Currently using a motorcraft equivalent but thats made by purolator i think. The wix and purolator design is different but they both work.


04 Camry 2az-fe 209k
M1 5w30
PremiumGuard filter
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: Merkava_4] #4597598
12/07/17 09:59 PM
12/07/17 09:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Offline
StevieC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Doesn't anybody make a wire backed cartridge filter ?


I haven't seen any... grin2


'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - AMSOIL SS 5w20
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597600
12/07/17 10:00 PM
12/07/17 10:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 17,814
Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Chris142 Offline
Chris142  Offline
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 17,814
Deplorable in apple valley, ca
I think this is caused by the filter expanding when oil wets it.


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: Chris142] #4597606
12/07/17 10:05 PM
12/07/17 10:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,094
North Carolina
rooflessVW Online content
rooflessVW  Online Content
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,094
North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Chris142
I think this is caused by the filter expanding when oil wets it.

More likely that the aftermarket filter is slightly too long.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597612
12/07/17 10:08 PM
12/07/17 10:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 446
Illinois
wymi516 Offline
wymi516  Offline
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 446
Illinois

Last edited by wymi516; 12/07/17 10:10 PM.

2016 KIA Forte SX 1.6L T-GDI Daughter
2013 Chevy Impala LT 3.6L GDI Mine
2014 Chrysler 200S 3.6L PFI Wife
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597621
12/07/17 10:14 PM
12/07/17 10:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT
1998chevy Offline OP
1998chevy  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT
The vehicle it is installed in is a 2012 Chrysler Town & Country, so this older style filter is the correct filter.
When re-installing the cap I tighten it by hand until it makes seats against the filter housing and then firmly snug it by hand. Same way I have been changing the cartridge filter in my 2003 TDI Jetta for years and haven't seen any issues there.
I will get an OEM filter next oil change and see how it measures up.

Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597625
12/07/17 10:18 PM
12/07/17 10:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Offline
StevieC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,228
ON, Canada eh?
Originally Posted By: 1998chevy
The vehicle it is installed in is a 2012 Chrysler Town & Country, so this older style filter is the correct filter.
When re-installing the cap I tighten it by hand until it makes seats against the filter housing and then firmly snug it by hand. Same way I have been changing the cartridge filter in my 2003 TDI Jetta for years and haven't seen any issues there.
I will get an OEM filter next oil change and see how it measures up.


cheers Yeah I would measure the Mopar versus the Napa. I would even measure against a Wix branded to see if it's any different from the Napa rebranded wix for some stupid reason. (It would be millimeters, don't forget to include the clips at the top of the filter as well)


Last edited by StevieC; 12/07/17 10:19 PM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - AMSOIL SS 5w20
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: wymi516] #4597627
12/07/17 10:18 PM
12/07/17 10:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT
1998chevy Offline OP
1998chevy  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4
MT


Hmm. Hadn't come across this post in my searching. Looks like this newer style filter was experiencing similar distortion, just not as bad. Thanks for the link.

Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597678
12/08/17 12:25 AM
12/08/17 12:25 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 437
TN USA
Crispysea Offline
Crispysea  Offline
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 437
TN USA
My wife has a 2012 GC with the same filter, but itís never done that. Iíve only used Mopar or CQ filters. They both say ďMade in South KoreaĒ. There are Chinese-made ones that seem thinner.

Re: 3.6 Pentastar Distorted Used Filter Pleats [Re: 1998chevy] #4597687
12/08/17 12:58 AM
12/08/17 12:58 AM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 971
SACRAMENTO, CA
rrounds Offline
rrounds  Offline
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 971
SACRAMENTO, CA
My '13 Jeep has the same style filter and I use Wix and never had that much distortion in the pleats.

ROD


'06 S2000
'00 SSEi sold at 252k miles
'08 Ford F53 V10
'13 Jeep Sahara 2 door
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™