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#4597183 - 12/07/17 02:07 PM Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it?
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
Guys,

I've got a Toyota Tacoma that I plan to have forever, basically. I'm just about finishing my a case of OEM oil filters and was looking around to buy another case. I see on eBay I can get a case of 12 Fram Extra Guard filters for $31.82 shipped. $2.65/filter sounds like a smoking deal to me. OEM filters are going to set me back about $4.50/ea by the case.

I guess I'm just wanting some reassurance that Fram makes a decent product these days. I change my oil with synthetic every 7500 miles (which is normally 7-8 months). Are the plain old orange can Frams up to that? Or would you spend more and go with OEM or maybe Denso (who makes the OEM filters) from Rockauto.

I'll look forward to your opinions.
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#4597188 - 12/07/17 02:15 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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I'm also seeing a good deal on a case of Ecogard filters for about a buck more. I don't know anything about Ecogard. Thoughts?
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#4597189 - 12/07/17 02:16 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
UG_Passat Offline


Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 1969
Loc: NJ
Fram recommends their OCOD out to 5,000 miles. Fram ToughGuard is more supportable for your planned OCI (Fram rates them to 10,000 miles)
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#4597191 - 12/07/17 02:18 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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Loc: McGregor TX
Yeah, I've seen that...but I honestly don't know if that is marketing or what. I mean, Jiffy Lube still recommends 3000 mile OCIs, so I'm a little skeptical of the 5000 mile number from Fram. But who knows...
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#4597194 - 12/07/17 02:21 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
jongies3 Offline


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Loc: MT
I'd rather use OEM over an orange can but that's just me. If you're going to buy Fram, get the Ultra! I've used OEM's on my Tacoma a lot and they served me well, although, I have an Ultra on it now. I went with the 3600 so I could dump an even 6 quarts in my 3.4 instead of 5.5 that it calls for.
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#4597197 - 12/07/17 02:27 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: jongies3]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
Originally Posted By: jongies3
I'd rather use OEM over an orange can but that's just me. If you're going to buy Fram, get the Ultra! I've used OEM's on my Tacoma a lot and they served me well, although, I have an Ultra on it now. I went with the 3600 so I could dump an even 6 quarts in my 3.4 instead of 5.5 that it calls for.


Strange--my 2002 3.4L Tacoma calls for 6 quarts in the manual.
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#4597199 - 12/07/17 02:28 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
working_title Offline


Registered: 11/16/17
Posts: 3
Loc: OH
I decided to stick with the OEM filters after reading this write-up:

https://parts.olathetoyota.com/tacoma-oil-filter-comparison
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#4597206 - 12/07/17 02:32 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: working_title]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
Originally Posted By: working_title
I decided to stick with the OEM filters after reading this write-up:

https://parts.olathetoyota.com/tacoma-oil-filter-comparison


Cool--thanks for the link.
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#4597209 - 12/07/17 02:36 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
There's a an auction on a case of compatible Motorcraft filters too that is in the ballpark. Are Motorcraft generally considered good filters?
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#4597229 - 12/07/17 02:59 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
HoosierJeeper Offline


Registered: 11/23/16
Posts: 1276
Loc: WI
They're made by Purolator, generally susceptible to tearing, some models more than others. I'd go Tough Guard, Ultra or OEM. Wix is good too.
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#4597248 - 12/07/17 03:20 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
bigt61 Offline


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12 filters is way too many to buy for just one car. Stuff happens.
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#4597250 - 12/07/17 03:21 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: bigt61]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
Originally Posted By: bigt61
12 filters is way too many to buy for just one car. Stuff happens.


Maybe...but it'd be my 3rd case. ;-) And the way I figure it, if I get them that cheap (< half the price of Walmart) then I'm ahead of the game even if I use just over half of them.


Edited by mrdctaylor (12/07/17 03:27 PM)
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#4597259 - 12/07/17 03:37 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10027
Loc: Indiana
You're certain their Extra Guards?

These are $3.77 at Walmart.
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#4597265 - 12/07/17 03:44 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: mrdctaylor]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor

I guess I'm just wanting some reassurance that Fram makes a decent product these days. I change my oil with synthetic every 7500 miles


The product quality of Fram Orange cans has improved a LOT over the last few years.
I would run one to 7500 miles without hesitation!
(your Toyota manual may even suggest 2X OCI's per filter)

Didn't you just buy a ton of them from TSC in Waco?!?
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#4597271 - 12/07/17 03:49 PM Re: Case of Fram Extra Guard filters--should I do it? [Re: Linctex]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 590
Loc: McGregor TX
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor

I guess I'm just wanting some reassurance that Fram makes a decent product these days. I change my oil with synthetic every 7500 miles


The product quality of Fram Orange cans has improved a LOT over the last few years.
I would run one to 7500 miles without hesitation!
(your Toyota manual may even suggest 2X OCI's per filter)

Didn't you just buy a ton of them from TSC in Waco?!?


Ha! Actually, I keep up with 4 cars (mine, my wife's and my 2 kids' cars). I was able to find 2 each for the other 3 cars, but there were no Fram clearance filters that fit my Tacoma. :-) But now that I'm stocked up on the other cars' filters, I was looking for a deal on filters for my truck. I'll probably just hold off unless I run into a crazy clearance situation like the one as TSC. I still have 2 on the shelf.
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