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#4596552 - 12/06/17 08:46 PM Winter tire suggestions
dgunay Offline


Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 586
Loc: Toronto
Hey fellas,

I am on the market for a new winter tire set (205/55/R16), here are some options

- Bridgestone Blizzak WS80
- Michelin X-Ice XI3
- Continental Wintercontact SI
- Pirelli Ice Zero FR

I checked Tirerack's website but couldn't find tests for the Wintercontact and Ice Zero FR. There are few to no reviews of these tires, since they are relatively newer than the others.

I am curious if any BITOG'ers (especially driving FWD) use any of these tires, and I would like to hear good/bad experiences about them.

Thanks in advance.

Dan
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#4596571 - 12/06/17 09:00 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
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Loc: NE,Ohio
how often do you get deep snow... 8"+

Dont know much about those particular pirelli winter tires.

but they appear to be more of a performance winter tread pattern.. with a lower speed rating.

I'd probably go with the michelin xice xi3 or the continentals

but a sale could sway me to the blizzaks or possibly the pirelli tires.

No wrong choice in there.
The michelins will wear much better(40000mile warranty in USA), maintain better mpg, feel like a normal passenger tire(vs the blizzak esp).

If everything was equal... price, availability,etc that would be my first choice.
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#4596574 - 12/06/17 09:02 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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I just got a set of WintercontactSi tires on a separate set of alloys for the Camry

Let's see how they do when the snow starts
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#4596580 - 12/06/17 09:08 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: Rand]
dgunay Offline


Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 586
Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: Rand
how often do you get deep snow... 8"+

Dont know much about those particular pirelli winter tires.

but they appear to be more of a performance winter tread pattern.. with a lower speed rating.

I'd probably go with the michelin xice xi3 or the continentals

but a sale could sway me to the blizzaks or possibly the pirelli tires.

No wrong choice in there.
The michelins will wear much better(40000mile warranty in USA), maintain better mpg, feel like a normal passenger tire(vs the blizzak esp).

If everything was equal... price, availability,etc that would be my first choice.


I rarely drive on deep snow.

Continental is $143.xx Canadian - $65 mail in rebate. Also Canadian Tire offers 12% cash back + 24 months equal payment. Seems like this is the best deal so far.
Pirelli $142.xx - $80 mail in rebate
Bridgestone $136.xx - $70 mail in rebate
Michelin $170 and no rebate
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#4596585 - 12/06/17 09:10 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Registered: 12/16/07
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The Pirelli seems to be the outlier in that group. Iíd get whateverís cheapest among the other 3.


Edited by E365 (12/06/17 09:13 PM)
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#4596588 - 12/06/17 09:12 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Registered: 06/25/09
Posts: 3562
Loc: Chicago, IL
you dont need deep snow to realize the benefits of winter tires. deep, wide tread pattern with softer compounds and tons of siping.
all of those in your list are excellent choices. I've had the Blizzaks for two seasons on three of our cars. two are FWD, one is AWD.
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#4596590 - 12/06/17 09:16 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12589
Loc: NE,Ohio
Originally Posted By: dgunay

I rarely drive on deep snow.

Continental is $143.xx Canadian - $65 mail in rebate. Also Canadian Tire offers 12% cash back + 24 months equal payment. Seems like this is the best deal so far.


I'd get the continentals at that price. Its a very new modern winter tire.

I loved my conti extreme winter contact tires. Amazing in the snow.

The new model you are looking at are tweaked to give up little of the deep snow traction and have better handling, packed snow/ice performance and less noise. A great tire for Toronto conditions.

I just picked up some blizzak dmv2 on MB14 wheels for my cherokee trailhawk.

390$ in rebates for black friday on wheels and tires.. total around $1020-390= $630 out the door.

All the tires I wanted were out of stock in stock size.. and only michelins available would have ended up being 200$ more in a goofy alternative size(smaller)

Went big with 245/70r17 blizzaks.
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#4596592 - 12/06/17 09:18 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
KneeGrinder Offline


Registered: 11/28/17
Posts: 221
Loc: North of you Idaho
Bridgestone has a $70.00 rebate on qualifying set of Blizzak tires. You would have to go to their website or just go to tire rack and check there. I did just buy another new set of Blizzak's for my Subaru. Mine were dm v2'sthey did qualify for th rebate and tire rack was the cheapest place. Walmart usually has the lowest price, but not this time. I have Blizzak's on my chevy for the winter tires also, so I'm happy with Blizzak's. But, I belive Michelin has a rebate going on the icex, and belive it or not, they are just about the same price as Blizzak's.
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#4596593 - 12/06/17 09:19 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 2214
Loc: London, England
Only have limited experience of all season and Winter tyres.

Michelin Alpin PA3 on work vehicles were very good.

I have had Nexen Winguards on the Berlingo Multispace that I just gave away for two years, Winter and summer use, they wore great and show hardly any wear despite having well over 10k on them.

Had GoodYear UltraGrip tyres, canít remember which ones but they were nice enough though had a slightly squidgy feeling to them on my V50 Volvo.

I have just fitted Dunlop SP Winter Sport 4Ds to my S Class in OE MO spec and so far they feel great, no extra noise, no extra vibration and they feel just as direct as the OE Continentals that came off. £620 fitted and balanced .

Also just had a full set of GoodYear Vector 4 Season G2 tyres fitted to my daughters Kia Picanto for £284 fitted and balanced, not cheap but the 165/60/14 size is rare and that pushes up the price!

I donít think any of those premium brand sthe OP is considering will be poor performers.

Money no object Inwould go for Michelin.

I used the Michelin Alpin PA3 on work vehicles and they were a very good tyre.
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#4596634 - 12/06/17 09:55 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Posts: 425
Loc: Connecticut 06033
After much testing both Consumer Reports(January 2018) and Motor Trend(Oct.-Nov. 2016) recommend the Michelin.
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#4596655 - 12/06/17 10:25 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Registered: 11/05/11
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Have you checked tire prices at Costco? Also, CAA members get discounts or promos on Pirelli tires. I saw the ice zero's in person and they appear to be well constructed. Soft compound and solid sidewalls. Im no Pirelli fan though. Nokians are a bit more of a pain to find but worth looking at.
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#4596662 - 12/06/17 10:36 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
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Registered: 03/28/16
Posts: 415
Loc: burlington ,ontario, canada
Below is Consumer Reports winter non-performance tire ranking (green only). On my previous vehicle, Scion XB, I had the Dunlop WinterMaxx 205/55/16. They served me well for 4 winters. On my current vehicle I have Gislaved NordFrost 100's. Fantastic winter tire but availability or its derivative could be an issue.



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#4596671 - 12/06/17 10:53 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
dgunay Offline


Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 586
Loc: Toronto
Thanks for all input

I checked Gislaved tires, and you are right. Hard to find one in a physical store (I don't like to shop online when it comes to tires), and price is almost same with big 4 brands.
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#4596673 - 12/06/17 10:57 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: Rolla07]
dgunay Offline


Registered: 12/05/14
Posts: 586
Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Have you checked tire prices at Costco? Also, CAA members get discounts or promos on Pirelli tires. I saw the ice zero's in person and they appear to be well constructed. Soft compound and solid sidewalls. Im no Pirelli fan though. Nokians are a bit more of a pain to find but worth looking at.


I've never used Pirelli before. However, I would prefer Pirelli over Goodyear.

In the past, I used Goodyear Nordic tires for 4 years, and it was a horrible experience. It was really loud and grip was average.

Now I am sure anything on the list above will perform better than those Goodyear [censored], so price and road noise are my priorities.
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#4596687 - 12/06/17 11:37 PM Re: Winter tire suggestions [Re: dgunay]
SubLGT Offline


Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 2644
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: dgunay
Hey fellas,

I am on the market for a new winter tire set (205/55/R16), here are some options

- Bridgestone Blizzak WS80
- Michelin X-Ice XI3
- Continental Wintercontact SI
- Pirelli Ice Zero FR...


APA of Canada likes the WS80 and Nokian R2.
More of their opinions are here:
http://www.apa.ca/wintertire_reviews.asp

I've seen a few overseas tests of the Pirelli, and it generally scores behind the best winter tires from MIchelin, Nokian, Continental, Bridgestone, and Goodyear.


Edited by SubLGT (12/06/17 11:38 PM)

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