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#4595291 - 12/05/17 05:49 PM when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil
WhyMe Offline


Registered: 12/18/12
Posts: 547
Loc: Washington for now
change, do they automatically do any updates to the computer?

Moms CRV is due for its first oil change. i told her to bring it to the dealer because they will do any updates to firmware while its there. this is just a guess on my part.

So in your experience do they plug the car in and update on the first oil change ?

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#4595302 - 12/05/17 05:59 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
dlayman Offline


Registered: 12/21/14
Posts: 850
Loc: pennsylvania, usa
I doubt it or at least wouldn't count on it. Is there an update available? If so, specifically request it. Otherwise the vehicle will likely go into the "quick oil change" queue.


Edited by dlayman (12/05/17 05:59 PM)

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#4595332 - 12/05/17 06:34 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Registered: 11/14/17
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Loc: Richmond VA, Washington DC
I am not sure about Honda dealers but I would like to share my experiences on Nissan dealers. My first free oil change at the dealer (where I bought my car) is a rip-off; overfilled an inch above the maximum level of the dipstick so I suggest you to check the level before leaving. In terms of upgrading the software, I do not suggest to tell them doing it unless there are problems in your car. My Nissan Versa CVT fake-shifts after the software upgrade. The technicians told me that people complain about the CVT "not shifting" and Nissan released the firmware to make it fake-shift to satisfy retarded tyranny of the majority.
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#4595333 - 12/05/17 06:35 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: dlayman]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
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Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
Just chimin' in here...

A competent service desk might enter a car's VIN on the correct system and/or could possibly do some skull work and see if there were any outstanding recalls or service campaigns. You'd call that "good service".

You're better off asking at he desk during regular business hours.

I just waited for a car's first oil change and it was early (7:30 AM). Nobody else was there...not the best time to ask about bulletins.

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#4595337 - 12/05/17 06:37 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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If itís a 2017 CRV, there are a couple updates available to the ABS module and the driver assistance module. But the updates will not be done automatically.
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#4595339 - 12/05/17 06:39 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Registered: 06/25/14
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Loc: IL
At Nissan Dealers they do the "CVT updates" at the 20 dollar oil changes in the express lube, and their mutipoint inspection which did catch a leaking engine front cover.....

They are great on correcting recalls at oil changes. It is a safety thing afterall.

But they did try to sell me a 50 dollar tire rotation. So be smart. I cannot speak for Ford or GM/Chrysler, but a co-worker owns a GM product and the customer has to demand updates to be done.... I guess it's how the companies pay out for warranty work?


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#4595346 - 12/05/17 06:43 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Not unless you ask. Sometimes they will not be reimbursed by the manufacturer unless there is a concern present.
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#4595358 - 12/05/17 06:57 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
azjake Offline


Registered: 01/31/12
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
The Nissan dealership I take my Murano to checks automatically for any recalls or updates each time. A good service advisor should always do that.
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#4595361 - 12/05/17 06:59 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Recalls will show up on a warranty report that should be attached to every RO. Module updates not always.
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#4595373 - 12/05/17 07:37 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32774
Loc: ME
If the update is lame and fulfills a legal requirement I figure they'll get you.

Like if VW updated their diesel firmware so your car ran worse.

In your case I would specifically ask. It will give you a chance to check out your dealer.

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#4595384 - 12/05/17 07:48 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Registered: 11/14/17
Posts: 45
Loc: Richmond VA, Washington DC
Wow $20 oil change is a big deal! I have visited 3 Nissan dealers and two of them are doing underachieving work while charging a premium. I can now sleep better as my current dealer charges reasonably and does satisfactory work. I love my Nissan Versa. But Nissan needs to address the issues that some of the dealerships are retarded. And I dont like the new Xtronic fake-shift on CVT smile
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#4595386 - 12/05/17 07:49 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: bdcardinal]
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Registered: 04/08/06
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Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Recalls will show up on a warranty report that should be attached to every RO. Module updates not always.


That's how it is for us. Recalls always show up, and I think some things that are a widespread issue but not a safety recall, but not every little update unless there is a specific complaint.

Probably most vehicles on the road have updates available for them, but most are never done unless there is a specific complaint. A member here updated my 2002 Ranger in 2012, and if I remember right there were around 12 updates available.
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#4595388 - 12/05/17 07:50 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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Registered: 11/14/08
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Only if it's part of a recall or a campaign that is mandatory (rare).
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#4595408 - 12/05/17 08:13 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: 01rangerxl]
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Registered: 06/03/05
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Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Recalls will show up on a warranty report that should be attached to every RO. Module updates not always.


That's how it is for us. Recalls always show up, and I think some things that are a widespread issue but not a safety recall, but not every little update unless there is a specific complaint.

Probably most vehicles on the road have updates available for them, but most are never done unless there is a specific complaint. A member here updated my 2002 Ranger in 2012, and if I remember right there were around 12 updates available.


I hooked my Mustang up to an IDS at work on a Saturday not long after I bought it and did a bunch of updates. I need to do it again at some point. Saturdays are the best way to do it because there aren't as many people working so the server doesn't lag. Sometimes I swear Ford's server is an old Packard Bell 133mhz Pentium tower in the corner of the headquarters in Dearborn.
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#4595412 - 12/05/17 08:16 PM Re: when one bring a car to the dealer for 1st oil [Re: WhyMe]
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I remember when a dealer would ask you back in say 30 days for a checkup to make sure everything was tight, no leaks, and to correct anything the customer had noted like loose trim or frayed carpet. I donít think they do that anymore. Dealers have been cutting costs wherever they can and try to drum up business with add ons. Since 2008, the climate at dealerships changed quite a bit. Most are part of a bigger group.

I always try to have a good relationship with the service advisor if possible. That may spell the difference between getting the extra service done or not.
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