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Battle of the $6.50 oil filter #4594388
12/04/17 09:07 PM
12/04/17 09:07 PM
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MN
TmanP Offline OP
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I searched and couldn't find a comparison on here between the Wix/Napa Gold and the Fram Tough Guard.

I'm not interested in any Purolator product because I don't want to risk an even slightly higher than normal chance of a torn filter.

So, passing on the cheaper filters, but not stepping up to an Ultra/M1 (don't want to run the filter two OCIs), I am left with only a couple choices:

-Wix ($6.50 or so, cheaper on sale)- built like a tank, silicone ADBV, all I've seen cut open look good.
-AC Delco Classic ($4.29 for a non-ecore) - built well, but nitrile ADBV, OEM for my car (PF47)
-Fram Tough Guard (same price as Wix) - great efficiency but fiber endcaps, silicone ADBV, grippy paint. Cut-open look less good. I'm not as sure on the cardboard endcaps.

At the longest, these filters would be run out to OLM distance. That could be as many as 10,000 miles if I drive mostly highway.
What do you guys think?
I really like the Wix construction, but the Fram Tough Guard looks good on paper. AC Delco is a good filter but I don't like the idea of running it for 10,000 miles with a nitrile ADBV.


2012 Toyota Camry 2.5 30,000 mi
2015 Chevy Silverado LT Z71 5.3 V8 30,000 mi
2010 Toyota Sienna 3.5 V6 150,000 mi
Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594430
12/04/17 09:38 PM
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Chicago, IL
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Sure wix looks OK when new but have u seen how wavy and buckled the media is after 5k? Just look at the cut and posts
Where can you find wix for $6.50 or cheaper?
Every store in Chicagoland has them for 8.50+
For 10k my vote would be the tough guard

Last edited by Brybo86; 12/04/17 09:40 PM.

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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594435
12/04/17 09:44 PM
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Everywhere
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Easy - 6 pack Fram Ultras for 22.45 (3.75 each) shipped to your door. Ebay.

Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594447
12/04/17 09:55 PM
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WI
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I switch between Wix and the TG. I find the TG works better on my Liberty, the ADBV must be a bit better or something. Negligible difference. I've cut a Wix open after about 5 or 6k and it looked great, although I do believe Wix specs a 7500 max OCI. I like the TG, easy to get at Walmart if you're already there for oil. Wix is good too overall.


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594448
12/04/17 09:56 PM
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Ac delco Dura guard


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2013 Accord Sport M1 AP 0w20
Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594449
12/04/17 09:57 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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ON, Canada eh?
The Wix Cartridge filter in the PentaStars in our family comes out just as straight as it goes in. shrug


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: AndyinAL] #4594458
12/04/17 10:19 PM
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Western Ma.
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Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
Easy - 6 pack Fram Ultras for 22.45 (3.75 each) shipped to your door. Ebay.


+1


Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594475
12/04/17 10:48 PM
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WIX and NAPA Gold are darn good filters. FRAM Ultras look to be pretty good. I wouldn’t touch those cardboard end FRAMs with a 10’ pole.


2019 VW Tiguan SE Now: Factory fill & OEM filter
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: NAPA Synthetic 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: Brybo86] #4594498
12/04/17 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Sure wix looks OK when new but have u seen how wavy and buckled the media is after 5k? Just look at the cut and posts


Nope, never seen that. They look just fine.


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: AndyinAL] #4594499
12/04/17 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
Easy - 6 pack Fram Ultras for 22.45 (3.75 each) shipped to your door. Ebay.


Lots of neutral and negative feedback, and an allusion to being knock offs?
https://www.ebay.com/usr/sae-auto?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 shrug


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594500
12/04/17 11:25 PM
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Wix or Fram Ultra. TG is just an overpriced orange can.


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594504
12/04/17 11:32 PM
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Wally World in San Jose, CA is selling Mobil1 filters for around $6. I grabbed the last M-110 (Honda) box; it was was over stretched out. Someone stuffed a Fram in and put the M1 in the Fram box to save a few bucks... Never sat that one before.


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594508
12/04/17 11:39 PM
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This is one. Heavily built, high performance they say. Made by Champ labs, but think it's a step up from the PF47. I bought it for my Volt, same specs as yours, just slightly taller,.3 in. They claim full synthetic media, don't know if that is correct, should be:

http://productguide.luber-finer.com/Home/PartDetail?partNo=PH477

https://www.zoro.com/luberfiner-oil-filt...g&gclsrc=ds

Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: TmanP] #4594515
12/04/17 11:49 PM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Lubrifiner and Baldwin are commercial filters. Both will easily go two OCI's w/o incident.

I run Napa Gold because it is close by and durable. I've never had one fail. I suppose it could happen ... But has not for me.

1.5 miles to Napa Store. 19 miles to Wally World and they don't always have what I want.

Baldwin is mail-order for me. That what goes on my wife's Jag smile


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Re: Battle of the $6.50 oil filter [Re: dishdude] #4594535
12/05/17 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Wix or Fram Ultra. TG is just an overpriced orange can.

Media difference between the EG and TG. Efficiency and holding capacity is better on the TG vs EG.

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