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#4592941 - 12/03/17 10:59 AM How to use free lifetime rotations/balances?
TmanP Offline


Registered: 10/30/15
Posts: 436
Loc: MN
I bought a set of Cooper CS5 Grands from Fleet Farm this spring (got a GREAT deal- $300 OTD for 4 225-60R16) and they are now coming up on 6000 miles. Cooper recommends rotating at 5-8,000 miles. They're warrantied to 80,000 miles so I want to make sure I don't void the warranty.

I bought them at Mills Fleet Farm and my install included free lifetime rotations and balancing. I'm not sure of two things-
-how often should I rotate them? Is there any detriment to doing this at the low end of the scale?
-should I use the free balancing if I'm not experiencing any issues? Have them balance each time they rotate? Or do it only if I have vibration problems?
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#4592947 - 12/03/17 11:07 AM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2965
Loc: USA
Assuming tire warranties are actually worth something, you want to have rotations logged by a authorized dealer at the recommended interval. This way if you get a problem that is somehow related to early wear of a random tire then the shop can help you make a claim.

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#4592957 - 12/03/17 11:15 AM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
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Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 1017
Loc: Basehor, KS
When I had deals like this, I had them balance and rotate every 5K miles. That coordinates with my oil change regimen, so the rotation doesn't get forgotten. Never had a tire shop refuse because it was "too early".

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#4592958 - 12/03/17 11:16 AM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2734
Loc: Wet side WA
My tire shop says 5 to 6K for rotations. So I made it easy @ 115K They had 5K miles on them I'll get them rotated on every even 5K interval on the odometer.
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#4592971 - 12/03/17 11:33 AM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
Charlie2015 Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 236
Loc: Georgia
Rotate the tires as often as you can for free. Probably every 5 or 6 thousand miles. The only harm to tires usually comes from neglect (not checking pressure or leaving the tires in the same spot too long). I would probably recommend balancing every time if you have the time to wait, the balance is free, and the technician/machine combination are good.
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#4592973 - 12/03/17 11:37 AM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10135
Loc: OH
I'd also recommend Cross-rotating them for more even wear. On front wheel drive cars the front tires come straight back and the rears are crossed over to the front. I once had the advisor question me on how it's done so be prepared to tell them.

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#4592987 - 12/03/17 12:01 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: Reddy45]
d00df00d Online   content


Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11206
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Assuming tire warranties are actually worth something, you want to have rotations logged by a authorized dealer at the recommended interval. This way if you get a problem that is somehow related to early wear of a random tire then the shop can help you make a claim.

^ This.
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#4592989 - 12/03/17 12:01 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
ecotourist Offline


Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 1067
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
I have a variation of this problem. BMW does not recommend tire rotation, as the tires (supposedly) take a set at each location. And with my cars fairly wide tires I have had problems when I tried to rotate them.

And I now live in a 'snow tires not required' area. I have no need to go on the road for that theoretical day or two when there might be snow or ice. So there's no need for a seasonal change either.

I bought my current tires at Costco which offers free rotation, balancing and nitrogen filling for the life of the tires. I've noticed from my Honda that they don't check the balance, they just re-balance them.

With no need to ever remove those wheels, how would you suggest I go about accessing the periodic free re-balancing?
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#4592997 - 12/03/17 12:20 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 8732
Loc: Phoenix
I usually shoot for around 7,500 miles, but it usually comes down to whenever I have free time between 6k-10k.
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#4593043 - 12/03/17 01:22 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: ecotourist]
d00df00d Online   content


Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11206
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: ecotourist
I have a variation of this problem. BMW does not recommend tire rotation, as the tires (supposedly) take a set at each location. And with my cars fairly wide tires I have had problems when I tried to rotate them.

And I now live in a 'snow tires not required' area. I have no need to go on the road for that theoretical day or two when there might be snow or ice. So there's no need for a seasonal change either.

I bought my current tires at Costco which offers free rotation, balancing and nitrogen filling for the life of the tires. I've noticed from my Honda that they don't check the balance, they just re-balance them.

With no need to ever remove those wheels, how would you suggest I go about accessing the periodic free re-balancing?

Just have them re-balanced without being rotated.
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#4593045 - 12/03/17 01:23 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
d00df00d Online   content


Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 11206
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: TmanP
-should I use the free balancing if I'm not experiencing any issues? Have them balance each time they rotate? Or do it only if I have vibration problems?

Missed this question.

Might as well have them check the balance every time they rotate. That way you never have to worry about it.
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#4593050 - 12/03/17 01:27 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
HoosierJeeper Offline


Registered: 11/23/16
Posts: 1276
Loc: WI
I wouldn't balance them if they feel smooth, I don't like having my rims on the balancer more often than needed, I like to minimize the amount of damage a tire monkey does to them.
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#4593139 - 12/03/17 03:05 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: d00df00d]
ecotourist Offline


Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 1067
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Just have them re-balanced without being rotated.

I wonder if they would do only that. I suspect they'd rotate them through force of habit and I'd have a new vibration problem. I could ask I suppose.
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#4593152 - 12/03/17 03:25 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
HoosierJeeper Offline


Registered: 11/23/16
Posts: 1276
Loc: WI
I did that once where I wanted a free balance but didn't want them rotated, I just marked each tire with chalk (RF, LF, RR, LR) and told them, they got them back in the right places.
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#4593157 - 12/03/17 03:29 PM Re: How to use free lifetime rotations/balances? [Re: TmanP]
BHopkins Offline


Registered: 11/03/13
Posts: 1095
Loc: Utah
If Fleet Farm is anything like Discount Tire, you don't have to ask for the tires to be balanced. They do it each time the car is brought in for rotation. It's SOP to do both together.
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