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Today's oil change saga... #4592391
12/02/17 07:55 PM
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HoosierJeeper Offline OP
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Decided today to do an oil change on my XJ, it was about due and I wanted to get some 5w30 in it before it gets single digit cold here. Went to Walmart to get Pennzoil HM 5w30. Nothing on the shelf. Ok, Quaker State has to be good too. Nothing on the shelf. Maxlife? Take a guess. Castrol HM? Take a guess. I couldn't even get single quart bottles. It was like trying to buy bread in the USSR or something. Move on to Autozone, figured they have to have something high mileage 5W30 and maybe on sale. Got 6 quart STP High mileage 5W30 and whatever the top of the line STP filter is. Got home, was looking over the filter and saw in small print "Made in China", said nothing on the box. Not running a Chinese filter on anything. Went back to Autozone and they swapped it out for a Mopar filter for me, it was 7 cents more but they just gave it to me. No idea who makes the Mopar filter but I'll cut it open at the end of the OCI. Kudos to Autozone!


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592394
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This is why we stash.

Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592400
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Exactly why I have 2-3 oil changes on hand.

Last edited by mbacfp; 12/02/17 08:05 PM.

2014 F-550 PSD..........M1 Delvac ESP 5w-40 + OEM
2018 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592401
12/02/17 08:05 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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The Mopar filter is a tearolater. The Chinese stp may be better.


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592403
12/02/17 08:06 PM
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I hate to break it to you but Mopar filters are Purolators...

I’ve got a Fram Ultra in mine, I’ll leave it on for 2 or 3 OCIs, i change the oil every 3k or so because I bought 2 cases of Napa Conventional for $1 per quart.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 88k Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592404
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Purolator was making Mopar filters a few years ago.

Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592409
12/02/17 08:16 PM
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You thin oil guys are funny. I started the Borman6 at -17F with 10w40 in the engine. I idled it for several minutes before driving away. I used to use 10w40 as my winter fill on the BMWs. The last few yrs, I just added a pint of MMO to the 20w50 grin2


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592411
12/02/17 08:21 PM
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I would've left Walmart with some kind of 5W-30 and a Fram XG filter. The filter is more important than whether I have high mileage oil or not.

Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: andyd] #4592425
12/02/17 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: andyd
You thin oil guys are funny. I started the Borman6 at -17F with 10w40 in the engine. I idled it for several minutes before driving away. I used to use 10w40 as my winter fill on the BMWs. The last few yrs, I just added a pint of MMO to the 20w50 grin2


And your point is...?

I bet 1,000 cold starts with 10w40 = more wear and tear on the engine vs 1,000 cold starts with 0w40.


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592431
12/02/17 08:38 PM
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HoosierJeeper Offline OP
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Darn, hm might have to swap the Mopar one out. Or leave it? Only going to run it 3k anyway. Oil pressure seems more stable with it anyway but that could be the 5w30.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: Artem] #4592465
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Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: andyd
You thin oil guys are funny. I started the Borman6 at -17F with 10w40 in the engine. I idled it for several minutes before driving away. I used to use 10w40 as my winter fill on the BMWs. The last few yrs, I just added a pint of MMO to the 20w50 grin2


And your point is...?

I bet 1,000 cold starts with 10w40 = more wear and tear on the engine vs 1,000 cold starts with 0w40.




He is fishing for responses.


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Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592470
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Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Darn, hm might have to swap the Mopar one out. Or leave it? Only going to run it 3k anyway. Oil pressure seems more stable with it anyway but that could be the 5w30.





Run it 3k and if we hear any wailing and gnashing of teeth then we will know what happened along with the usual shark meat thread.


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Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: eljefino] #4592476
12/02/17 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
This is why we stash.


^^^ Best post so far !! ROFL laugh



'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QS HM 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: LoneRanger] #4592512
12/02/17 10:12 PM
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I just did an oil change for the neighbor's sister yesterday. Needed 6 quarts of synthetic and a filter. I got the jug of Pennzoil 5W30 HM for a little over $22.00, and an extra quart which was $6.49 at Walmart.

I found the Fram XG8765 filter on sale on line for $8.56 compared to the in store price of $14.47. Ordered it on line and picked it up when I picked up the oil. I filled out the Pennzoil rebate for her so she will be getting a check for $12.00.

Not sure if her car will make it through the winter, otherwise I would have picked up another jug of the oil. I only had 2.5 quarts drain out from the engine instead of 6! It's a 2005 Cadillac CTS 3.6 with 135000 miles showing.

Will teach her how to check the oil when she comes back Monday for me to install an air cleaner. Had to order that from Amazon for the best price.

Re: Today's oil change saga... [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4592540
12/02/17 10:49 PM
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The Mopar filter's internals are pretty dang close if not identical to the problematic FL-820s.

I personally would not run it.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

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