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My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . #4592096
12/02/17 01:41 PM
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CrackyWainwright Offline OP
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All right, gentlemen. I bit the bullet and plunked down $40 at WM for a jug of Mobil 1 AP for my 2013 Tacoma 4.0L V6. It's time for this experiment. I've run Castrol Edge EP for the last 11 months (13,000 miles) and will send a sample off to Blackstone Labs for analysis when I drain it very soon. Will post results to see if the Toyota V6 accepts longer OCI very well.

Anyone else running the Mobil 1 AP now?

Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592099
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Going for a 20K OCI?

Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: 2015_PSD] #4592145
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Going for a 20K OCI?



Exactly! Man up and run this elixir 20k then UOA and share results.


I like what 2015_PSD is doing with his M1 AFE smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592193
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UOA's show AFE can comfrtably do 12-13k miles. And EP 15k miles. Go past that with AP.



Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592259
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I'm mostly wanting an oil that will safely go one year for this truck. We drive about 13,000 per year in this vehicle. I've been a Castrol Edge user for a long time, and in truth the Castrol Edge EP would probably be sufficent for my plans. But I just can't resist spending more money! grin

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Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592264
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good luck with the 20k thumbsup

Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: vinu_neuro] #4592299
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Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
UOA's show AFE can comfrtably do 12-13k miles. And EP 15k miles. Go past that with AP.


What if you only reach 10K at the end of the year; then what?

Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592314
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OMG! That’s almost 4 cents a day that you could of … Uh, I’m drawing a blank …
Have a good annual run … that once a year suits me regardless … maybe I could miss August in Texas …


2018 Chevy 1500 Z71 4WD
2017 Chevy Tahoe LT 4WD
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Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592319
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yearly changes are usually recommended, but with xtra filter changes a real synthetic like RedLine would be good for longer changes in a mechanically sound engine, + RedLine is said to do well with fuel dilution more common in DI engines. $8 a qt is cheaper than real synthetics + wondering what mobil puts in it since they MAKE PAO + ester oils besides the other refined CRUDE "synthetics"

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Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: benjy] #4592367
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Originally Posted By: benjy
yearly changes are usually recommended, but with xtra filter changes a real synthetic like RedLine would be good for longer changes in a mechanically sound engine, + RedLine is said to do well with fuel dilution more common in DI engines. $8 a qt is cheaper than real synthetics + wondering what mobil puts in it since they MAKE PAO + ester oils besides the other refined CRUDE "synthetics"



Interesting. It has been discussed that ConocoPhillips has been changing the formulation of Redline so a statement like this should have some reference.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592405
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Looking forward to the results.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
Factory fill / Honda filter
Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: PimTac] #4592419
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Remember when it was all ester?


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2013 Cruze LTZ - RS Turbo
Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592504
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ON, Canada eh?
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I would at least do a UOA at 15K to make sure the TBN hasn't dropped too far. Especially because you have no baseline for this oil in this engine given your driving pattern. crzy


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'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: Merkava_4] #4592547
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
What if you only reach 10K at the end of the year; then what?


Pretty sure XOM banks on this. By most, it'll be used as a yearly oil as opposed to a 20k (or whatever) oil.

Considering the price, I think the stuff is a scam. I have more faith in their 0w40.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: My Mobil 1 AP Experiment . . . [Re: CrackyWainwright] #4592566
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Back in the day when I had the 4Runner with 3VZE, rang the mobil tech line asking how long I could run it.

When they finally worked out that I was serious, the vehicle was NOT under warranty, and I knew my way around, they said finally ANNUAL. M1 back in the day was advertised as having 40,000km protection, and they drove a car back and forth across the country to prove it.

If you drive 5,000km annual...if you drive 35,000km annual...the beaviours that you adopt in driving those distances in those times mean that the former is necessary, and the latter is possible.

To pull a stunt and make an "annual" oil is pretty disingenuous (but what marketting isn't), when their normal product line ca probably do it.

My OLM on the Colorado, in my 20 mile each way country commute looks like it will time out at 16-18,000km, and about a year...

When it was a dealer demo, and used 68% of the oil life in 4,300km, it would have come in at about a year as well in that driving...When it changed from my routine, rather than that last 32% lasting another 2,000km, it lasted 6,000km...and came in at annual as well.

Holden allow you to run to 0, regardless of miles (over the 15,000 service interval is fine), provided you don't go over a year.

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