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#4591845 - 12/02/17 08:56 AM Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine?
BobsArmory Offline

Registered: 03/28/10
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Loc: Michigan
I have a bottle of Ceratec that I would like to use in my new Chevy Equinox. Coming up on 5,000 miles and ready for an oil change soon. Too early to put the Ceratec in? Or should the engine be fully broken in by now and OK to use?
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#4591869 - 12/02/17 09:21 AM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
demarpaint Offline

Registered: 07/03/05
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I recall reading somewhere, I'll be [censored] if I knew where though, they recommended adding it after 10K miles. I'd play it safe and wait for 10K miles, if I were inclined to try it.
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#4591899 - 12/02/17 09:52 AM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
AZjeff Offline

Registered: 01/14/11
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FWIW I had an analysis done on oil that was in use from 5000 to 12000 miles and there were still lots of wear metals found.
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#4591946 - 12/02/17 11:02 AM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: Yah-Tah-Hey]
bigjl Offline

Registered: 09/06/12
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Loc: London, England
Maybe because it is his vehicle and he wants to.

Why are so opposed to its use?
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#4591983 - 12/02/17 11:36 AM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
PimTac Offline

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The use of oil additives is a personal decision. If the OP wants to use the Ceratec then he should be able to. LM has the info in their website about adding the product.

One aspect to consider is the interaction between this or any product and the coatings and treatments in modern engines. Most have plasma coatings, DLC, Moly coatings etc. Due diligence should be performed.
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#4592108 - 12/02/17 01:57 PM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
javacontour Offline

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One million miles. When you get to that milestone, you can add what you wish. Yet, there will still be someone here critical of that choice.
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#4592317 - 12/02/17 06:32 PM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
SLO_Town Offline

Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 614
Loc: California's Wine Country

Congrats on the Equinox! Here's the thing about using any additive on a brand new vehicle. There is the remote possibility that your new engine has some kind of mechanical defect in it. Who knows what the actual odds are - very low - but we'd all have to agree there is the remote possibility.

That said, should your vehicle be one of the very few to have an engine failure, it is my belief that it is SOP for a new car dealership to perform an oil analysis on any engine requiring major repair or replacement. In the warranty evaluation process it is my belief that they have an oil "signature" that is used to compare against the oil that came out of the faulty engine.

Should there be significant deviation from the signature they have on file - which any oil additive would cause - it is my opinion that this could compromise the warranty and how those costs are accounted for.

I'll be upfront, I am not an additive kind of guy so I'm not sure what you expect to gain from adding an additive to the oil of a nearly new vehicle, of which you are already running a high quality OEM approved oil. But if you insist on using an additive, I'd wait until 15,000 miles before doing so. If your engine lasts that long it is most certainly defect free.

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#4592366 - 12/02/17 07:23 PM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
hyperscion Offline

Registered: 11/14/09
Posts: 129
Loc: oklahoma
I would wait until factory warranty is off. then add with no worries. its good stuff.

#4594324 - 12/04/17 07:00 PM Re: Ceratec,how many miles before using in new engine? [Re: BobsArmory]
minis Offline

Registered: 12/02/12
Posts: 48
Loc: texas
get your oil analysed first so see if most of the wear material out
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