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2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each #4591671
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I was thinking using ultra for 2 oil change on on my family car, mix city/highway 5k miles oil change. the way his car oil filter location, I might as well leave it there for 2 oil change, never did 2 oil change on same filter in my life. This will be no problem with ultra right ?

are peoples doing 2 oil change on same filter with ultra ? do you guy just leave the filter in there or take off to drain the old oil, then reinstall the filter ?


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591674
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What vehicle on most no problem at all doing it on a few myself. Every vehicle I've done it on I know the history and changed oil on them since day one. I have always used full synthetic or syn blend when doing back to back change I cut all ultra filters they are built extremely well all look perfect after multiple change I'm not one to go over the 10k to 12k on any.

Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591676
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Is this for your Nissan truck? Is it a spin in filter? I'm not a fan of their cartridges..

Anyways, some here have taken them off to drain, but I am in the "don't disturb the gasket" camp. There's a 50/50 chance it's usable after you remove and reinstall it. The potential risk in the name of saving time and money just doesn't add up to me. But to each his own.

I've ran them to 15k before with various brands, types etc. It'll be fine.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: dlundblad] #4591683
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Do not remove filter and reinstall it.
The gasket may leak.
There is not enough old oil in there to worry about.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591693
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I run them twice with some regularity. The filter will be fine.

Do not take it off.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: dave123] #4591695
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Originally Posted By: dave123
What vehicle on most no problem at all doing it on a few myself. Every vehicle I've done it on I know the history and changed oil on them since day one. I have always used full synthetic or syn blend when doing back to back change I cut all ultra filters they are built extremely well all look perfect after multiple change I'm not one to go over the 10k to 12k on any.




"50/50 chance the gasket will leak"....Huh? Its a piece of square cross section rubber. Don't be silly....it won't leak.

Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: philipp10] #4591698
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Originally Posted By: philipp10
Originally Posted By: dave123
What vehicle on most no problem at all doing it on a few myself. Every vehicle I've done it on I know the history and changed oil on them since day one. I have always used full synthetic or syn blend when doing back to back change I cut all ultra filters they are built extremely well all look perfect after multiple change I'm not one to go over the 10k to 12k on any.




"50/50 chance the gasket will leak"....Huh? Its a piece of square cross section rubber. Don't be silly....it won't leak.


It's a square piece of rubber that smashes down over time and conforms to the filter it's fitted into, thus creating a seal between the can and engine/ filter housing. Cartridge filters typically come with new seals for this vary reason.

As I said, to each his own.

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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: dlundblad] #4591709
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: philipp10
Originally Posted By: dave123
What vehicle on most no problem at all doing it on a few myself. Every vehicle I've done it on I know the history and changed oil on them since day one. I have always used full synthetic or syn blend when doing back to back change I cut all ultra filters they are built extremely well all look perfect after multiple change I'm not one to go over the 10k to 12k on any.




"50/50 chance the gasket will leak"....Huh? Its a piece of square cross section rubber. Don't be silly....it won't leak.


It's a square piece of rubber that smashes down over time and conforms to the filter it's fitted into, thus creating a seal between the can and engine/ filter housing. Cartridge filters typically come with new seals for this vary [sic] reason.

As I said, to each his own.


This.

I will add that of the OEM’s that recommend running a filter more than one OCI, not one that I am aware of says to remove and reinstall the filter.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: philipp10] #4591754
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Originally Posted By: philipp10
Originally Posted By: dave123
What vehicle on most no problem at all doing it on a few myself. Every vehicle I've done it on I know the history and changed oil on them since day one. I have always used full synthetic or syn blend when doing back to back change I cut all ultra filters they are built extremely well all look perfect after multiple change I'm not one to go over the 10k to 12k on any.




"50/50 chance the gasket will leak"....Huh? Its a piece of square cross section rubber. Don't be silly....it won't leak.
I DO NOT remove filter that would be stupid when performing back to back oil change just drain pan and fill.

Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591781
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Don't take it off!! It will seem OK when reinstalled, but your risk of it backing off when driving is exponentially higher. If you feel you have to take it off, just replace it-don't want to see a filter experiment cause a blown engine.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591784
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Easy Peasy.

I did 30,000 miles on a Motorcraft FL-1A back in the early 90's.
I pulled it and drained it each time, but I don't do that anymore.

Originally Posted By: MetalSlug

are peoples doing 2 oil change on same filter with ultra ? do you guy just leave the filter in there or take off to drain the old oil, then reinstall the filter ?


You can do either/or - I have NEVER EVER had an oil filter not seal after re-installing it. EVER.

That small bit of oil left in the filter won't harm anything.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: bullwinkle] #4591785
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Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Don't take it off!! It will seem OK when reinstalled, but your risk of it backing off when driving is exponentially higher.


That simply is not true. Not one word of it.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: Linctex] #4591789
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Its a square piece of rubber. If it still has spring in the rubber, it will seal. If it doesn't have spring, it would of leaked whether it was removed.....or not. The idea that removing it somehow changes it's ability to seal is just silly....about as silly as some of the information on this website.

Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591828
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It's just foolish to remove, drain and reinstall an $8 filter. The point of using a Fram Ultra is that they're now rated for 20,000 miles, and allegedly they filter better as they age, unless your engine is a sludger.

If you're going to remove the filter every 5K miles, use a cheaper filter and install a new one, unless your money grows on trees and you like to get your hands dirty for no reason. I run the Ultra for two 6K intervals, and I'm under using the filter.


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Re: 2 oil change with ultra ? dino oil 5k each [Re: MetalSlug] #4591832
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Getting back to your original question, I see no problem with running an Ultra for two changes. My Pilot's manual says to replace the oem made by Fram filter every other oil change, so that is what I am doing using a Fram Ultra. The filters are now rated for 20,000 miles. Just leave the filter alone when you change.


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