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How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? #4591377
12/01/17 07:51 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
Pajero Offline OP
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Hello,

I've decided to do something about my engine Varnish, in my Gen 2 1994 Montero 3.5 DOHC.

I'm currently using Kreen in my engine. I purchased a case redline impulsively, before I decided on Kreen. Depending on how the Kreen works, I plan on using Redline in the near future, after running 0W40 Mobile 1 rinse phase, so to speak. How well does Redline clean varnish deposits? I didn't purchase it for that reason, but i"ve read a lot of positive reviews concerning it. I got a super deal with a gift card for the Redline. Opinions please? I don't plan on running Redline exclusively due to financial reasons and logic.


Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591395
12/01/17 08:18 PM
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I forgot to add something. I ran Pennzoil Ultra a couple times, via the engine with UOA's. Ultra did nothing to clean, visually that is. But, I realize that varnish didn't get there overnight.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591397
12/01/17 08:19 PM
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I've heard that it removes varnish extremely well. Haven't tried it myself though.

Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591414
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I heard it isn't as good as PYB.


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Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Lolvoguy] #4591433
12/01/17 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
I heard it isn't as good as PYB.


No you misunderstand -- the OP wants to REMOVE varnish, not ADD varnish. LOL

Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591434
12/01/17 08:52 PM
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Is the varnish that bad? If not I would just leave it. It gives that Mitsu 3.5 character.

I ran a Mitsu 1.8l 4 banger for almost 200k. The insides were a nice brassy looking varnish. I was told that Castrol GTX did that to all motors it ran in. That vehicle went to a family member who ran a bunch more miles on it. Never a problem at all.


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Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591443
12/01/17 08:59 PM
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Pic of the varnish?

From my personal experience trying to remove varnish from a 98 Camry V6, I've found it to be useless. Tried all kinds of things. Nothing cleaned the metal.

Flush out the sludge if any and drive it until the wheels fall off.


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Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591447
12/01/17 09:05 PM
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Save some money and use the Shell Rotella 15w-40 CJ-4, it has around the same Ca detergent levels as Redline.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/shellrotellatT1540.htm


Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591454
12/01/17 09:10 PM
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Redline kept the head at least of my Tracked Evo 9 This clean:
[img:left][/img]

Granted I used M1 for about 20k miles before this, but used Redline 5w30 for over 30k miles. Car was daily driven and tracked. I was very happy with it.

This pic is when I upgraded my cams and I took a pic just thought it was clean enough to eat off of.


Jeff


"You don't have to be crazy to do this... But it helps." Bob Ross.
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591465
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In my last car I wanted to flush before using Recline Oil so I called Dave at Recline and he told me to run one oci of Pennzoil Synthetic to clean it up prior to using if my engine was dirty.


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Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX] #4591487
12/01/17 09:56 PM
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Nice! I have the 6G74 engine. I ran 2 OCI of PUP and it didn't clean any varnish. In fact, the oil sheared and had high FE and AL. I read that Falcon had a good experience with Pennzoil Platinum.

I will do what I can. If not, I guess it will have character. Until recently, this vehicle has been garaged kept and used as a secondary (play 4x4) vehicle. It went weeks without being used. This is where I made my mistake.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Rock_Hudstone] #4591490
12/01/17 09:59 PM
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Rock_Hudstone,

Is the CJ4 still available. I thought it was superseded by CK4. Perhaps, I could try that during the summer.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Artem] #4591499
12/01/17 10:05 PM
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Artem,

Not much to see from the oil filler, with the baffle. I bought a mechanics camera, but the pics are very dark. I will try again and post some pics. The top of the engine (plenums) have to be removed in order to get to the valve covers. Very expensive job, I can do basics, but not take the top of the engine apart. The top of the engine has to be removed to change the PCV valve. Crazy! I made a bet with a mechanic and won.(another topic). These 6G74 engines are difficult to work on, but will last a long time if a rigid maintenance schedule is followed. Which I am very OCD with this truck. She is twenty-three years old. I'm the original owner.

Respectfully,

Pajero!



Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591501
12/01/17 10:06 PM
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Not sure what the benefit of this varnish removal is? It's like your teeth having a slight yellow tinge instead of bleached white. No performance difference at all.


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04 Focus 1.8L|Wesfil Cooper WZ63|Valvoline MST 5W30
05 Kluger 3.3L|Wesfil Cooper WZ418|Magnatec 10W30 Semi Syn
Re: How well does Redline Oil clean engine varnish? [Re: Pajero] #4591503
12/01/17 10:08 PM
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I did run a few hundred miles with Neutra, via the previous OCI. Oil came out very dark brown. Looked like feces, to be honest. Never seen it like that. I've always done my own oil changes.




Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
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