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Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? #4591041
12/01/17 01:31 PM
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XOM says that these two oils have dexos1 Gen 2 licenses, but I haven't seen either one with packaging that reflects that at my local Walmarts.
I have seen plain ol M1 5W30 Gen 2 for a while and the AP product has always had a Gen 2 license #.
Have the oils in the title been observed in the wild??


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Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591059
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I haven't seen any. I doubt if it will change much. I think it probably met the spec the way it is.

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591067
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I think you're right, bigj.
Just surprised it's taking so long for these products to hit the shelves.


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M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591071
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I have been trying to find the new version as well. Also I thought there is a post on here somewhere about the new d1g2 version and that there is a difference between the two. I can't find it but I could be mistaken

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591089
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Its in some Walmarts now; dexos1 Gen2 labels right up front. ... seen it.
Wonder if the formula even had to change at all to pass the new Gen2 tests? I'd assume the recipe did not change at all.
My 2018 GM Equinox owner's manual says to use dexos1 Gen2 oils, or just use ANY dexos1 Mobil1 (as in old generation dexos1 Mobil1 is just fine in 2018 1.5T DI engines, no problem.)

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591091
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According to this very complete list that member OVERKILL sent me. smile

Happy Friday gents smile

http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: 53' Stude] #4591092
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Originally Posted By: car51
According to this very complete list that member OVERKILL sent me. smile
http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/

That list is often leaving out a lot of stuff we see on the shelves with a Gen2 label, but not on that "official" list.
They need to keep that up better I guess.
There is nothing like seeing "Gen2" on the front label. Thats the only truth. Don't go by that list.

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591095
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Well sir, my Valvoline ďadvanced syntheticĒ in new jug styling isnít Gen2 approved. I tend to believe OVERKILLS info also as heís pretty darn straightforward.

I believe that list btw, sorry if you or some folks donít. To each their own


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: 53' Stude] #4591136
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Originally Posted By: car51
Well sir, my Valvoline ďadvanced syntheticĒ in new jug styling isnít Gen2 approved.
Then its not their Gen2 recipe inside. Or at least you cannot rely on it to be.
Originally Posted By: car51
I tend to believe OVERKILLS info also as heís pretty darn straightforward.
OVERKILL doesn't build or edit that list. Sorry for the news.

Originally Posted By: car51
I believe that list btw, sorry if you or some folks donít. To each their own

Not the point. If you see an oil on the shelf at walmart with the Gen2 logo printed on the front, and it doesn't appear on the official list, do you believe the bottle label or the official list? Obviously the bottle label wins.
Its mainly what doesn't make the list. It takes them a long time to add ones in there.

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591148
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I think that centerforqa list gets updated slower than the industry. If I see the gen2 label on the jug, then I feel Iím good to go. That list is also global.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: oil_film_movies] #4591192
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: car51
Well sir, my Valvoline ďadvanced syntheticĒ in new jug styling isnít Gen2 approved.
Then its not their Gen2 recipe inside. Or at least you cannot rely on it to be.
Originally Posted By: car51
I tend to believe OVERKILLS info also as heís pretty darn straightforward.
OVERKILL doesn't build or edit that list. Sorry for the news.

Originally Posted By: car51
I believe that list btw, sorry if you or some folks donít. To each their own

Not the point. If you see an oil on the shelf at walmart with the Gen2 logo printed on the front, and it doesn't appear on the official list, do you believe the bottle label or the official list? Obviously the bottle label wins.
Its mainly what doesn't make the list. It takes them a long time to add ones in there.


How can you say that it is not their Gen2 oil? Maybe they put the new formula in the new style jug and didnít update labels?? Possible? If it didnít appear on the list I would call Valvoline which I have before. Mistakes can happen smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: 53' Stude] #4591206
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Originally Posted By: car51
How can you say that it is not their Gen2 oil? Maybe they put the new formula in the new style jug and didnít update labels?? Possible? If it didnít appear on the list I would call Valvoline which I have before. Mistakes can happen smile

I'm just saying that you can't rely on it being Gen2 if no Gen2 is seen on the front label.
It could indeed be Gen2, since they may have been in production with Gen2 and shipping jugs out before they could legally put "Gen2" on the label yet. You just don't know if Gen2 is in there or not, is all I've said.
There is currently a rumor that Valvoline did not have to change formulas to go to Gen2 anyway. So this could be moot. The rumor came from a phone call a bitoger made to a guy a Valvoline who says they didn't change anything for Gen2. Of course, we know phone reps can be full of cow fertilizer, so still not sure.
A UOA or VOA would tell more.

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591218
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Thanks for the clarification sir. Sorry if I came off wrong also.

Yeah, my Wal Marts still have the old style Valvoline synpower/Maxlife jugs there and very few new style jugs


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591403
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The logo isn't what makes it approved, the license number on the back is. Here's a quart bottle of Mobil Super Synthetic 5w30 with the old logo but current d1G2 license number...




http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/







18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W-30 + FRAM XG9688

Re: Anybody Seen d1G2 M1 0W30 AFE or 5W30 EP? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4591885
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Wemay: not to beat a horse here but this new style jug Valvoline Syn high mileage hasnít a Dexos Approved Gen 2 label on front then this on back. So, would one venture to say or guess its Gen2 approved?




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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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