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Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? #4590229
11/30/17 07:32 PM
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crazy_raccoon Offline OP
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Is it worth even spending money on full synthetic oils when the driver does a lot of stop and go driving in the city? I don't live far from work and since moving to the area there is a lot of stop and go driving due to 4 way stops and traffic lights. Also on the commute to work I really can't drive above 40 mph because of the speed limits (most of the time it's 30 mph). I'll do an occasional highway drive that can be from a half hour to two and a half hours once a month.

I'm just wondering if I really am wasting money on these OCIs especially when I usually change them out at 5,000 miles.


'07 Scion tc
- 98K miles
- Valvoline FS w/ML 0W-20 D1G2
- FRAM Ultra
'07 Honda Accord coupe 4cyl
- 128K miles
- Valvoline FS w/ML 0W-20 D1G2
- FRAM TG
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590239
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Unless your car requires syn, I would run any namebrand dino in the correct grade,and call it a day.


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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590240
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For 5k any SN rated oil will do fine


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590267
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After seeing what my father's well maintained Buick Century with about 80K looked like I'd only use synthetic oil. Driving conditions were similar. The background was he had given it to me instead of trading it in. He was the original owner and it had dealer and local shop dino oil changes every 3K miles or less, like clockwork. The engine ran well and was mechanically perfect. I took some through the fill hole pics of it and posted them here a few times. It did not look good.


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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590274
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Stop and go driving the hardest thing you'll do to your engine short of reving you engine with no load over 6 grand.
Go Synthetic and don't listen to the other CARP!


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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590283
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If the engine is sound, then a quality synthetic is always superior.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590285
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crazy_raccoon Offline OP
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I'm thinking about at least switching to a synthetic blend to save some money. I'm just trying to get the best out of my oil, while maintaining my car and trying to avoid fuel dilution due to short trips and not being able to get the oil to optimal temperature.


'07 Scion tc
- 98K miles
- Valvoline FS w/ML 0W-20 D1G2
- FRAM Ultra
'07 Honda Accord coupe 4cyl
- 128K miles
- Valvoline FS w/ML 0W-20 D1G2
- FRAM TG
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590292
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What kind of car do you drive?

Going with a synthetic blend is not a bad idea if you are trying to save money. Another way is to keep an eye on brand website for rebates. Recently SOPUS had a $2 a quart rebate going. It might still be on. For a 5 qt jug thats $10 bucks off.


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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590315
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Take it on the highway once a week.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590328
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With the price of synthetic oil, on sale, being close to regular oil, just go with synthetic.

Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4590331
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Take it on the highway once a week.


That didn't help with the Century I had. My father drove it at least twice a week on the parkway for 20-30 minutes. For the cost of synthetic oil today with rebates and oil change specials it's a no brainer to be honest.


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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590340
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IMHO, short tripping in cold weather is a good reason to do 2,000-3,000 oil changes, on just regular "dino" oil, in engines that are "easy" on oil (most any American V8)

If you live up near the land of the red maple leaf, going with synthetic in the winter just makes life easier for everybody. 5,000 miles can be handled by nearly any synthetic, even lots of short trips in cold weather.


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Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590351
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I run synthetic because I can get it cheaper than conventional with rebates.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590370
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If your car doesn't consume much oil, synthetic oil would be great for protecting in all those cold starts and putting up with the fuel dilution.

If your car consumes a lot of oil, short trips and mild use might allow oil to accumulate in the combustion chambers, which might cause other problems. Might be best to stick with a conventional, as that might burn off more easily.


2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
Mobil Super 5w-20
Re: Full synthetic oils and stop-n-go driving? [Re: crazy_raccoon] #4590385
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There are plenty store brand synthetic oils that come with an oil filter for $24.99+tax, or even less. O'Reilly's Synthetic, STP Synthetic from AutoZone, CarQuest Synthetic from Advance Auto Parts. WalMart has plenty of synthetic oil&filter options for under $25. You will save a lot more money by changing your driving habits, if saving money is what you truly desire. Accelerate slowly, brake gently in advance, and other little tricks will save you enough money in a year to pay for 2 oil changes next year.

Your driving style is the worst for oil, so use nothing but synthetics. Save money elsewhere.


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