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How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. #4589912
11/30/17 02:51 PM
11/30/17 02:51 PM
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Illinois
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These are pictures from underneath a 6 lane interstate overpass, that passes over 18 sets of train tracks and a two lane road, here in Illinois. You can clearly see the concrete support in the background with a vertical crack/separation right through it, top to bottom.

I can't help but think that this is one end result of an Illinois Department of Transportation policy to apply salt or salt brine onto anything that might remotely get slick for 6 months out of the year, from October through April. They will even apply brine to address the threat of frost. And if it rains, they re-apply.

And yes, IDOT has assured the public that this is all safe, that there's nothing to worry about, and nothing to see here... move along please. They'll fix it once it finally gets bad enough, and once they can afford to.

Just remember these pictures as you pass through Illinois, you've been warned. smile






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Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589922
11/30/17 02:54 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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That is sketchy as all get-up crzy


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Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589925
11/30/17 02:57 PM
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Let not your heart be troubled Ö itís Safety Yellow after all wink

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589938
11/30/17 03:10 PM
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OH
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Looks like temporary bracing while they fix the concrete supports. See the new concrete supports in the background of this picture. You can tell the concrete is new since there's no graffiti on it yet.



Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589944
11/30/17 03:17 PM
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MN
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Some engineer did a stress analysis on this, and signed off on it, with other engineers checking the calculations.
Still it should be temporary as they put new re-bars and concrete into replacing the original concrete support.

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589947
11/30/17 03:18 PM
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NY
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I seriously doubt it's any better in New York...

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589956
11/30/17 03:20 PM
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If this scares you, don't drive in the Montreal highway system. That place makes me very nervous as I drive under overpasses that are raining debris on the roads below. eek


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Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: KGMtech] #4589961
11/30/17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: KGMtech
If this scares you, don't drive in the Montreal highway system. That place makes me very nervous as I drive under overpasses that are raining debris on the roads below. eek


I'd be more concerned about some of the drivers in that area. wink

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: KGMtech] #4589963
11/30/17 03:26 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted By: KGMtech
If this scares you, don't drive in the Montreal highway system. That place makes me very nervous as I drive under overpasses that are raining debris on the roads below. eek


Yes, Montreal is a disaster.


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Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: SatinSilver] #4589965
11/30/17 03:27 PM
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'Stralia
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Looks like temporary bracing while they fix the concrete supports. See the new concrete supports in the background of this picture. You can tell the concrete is new since there's no graffiti on it yet.


Really ?

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589966
11/30/17 03:28 PM
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The IL
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I think they just borrowed another $10 billion, so those will probably be repaired.......someday.

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589984
11/30/17 03:44 PM
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America
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They had a budget impasse for almost 2 years where the state did nearly nothing but rack up debt.

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4589988
11/30/17 03:48 PM
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I'm sure a soda tax will raise the necessary money. smirk

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: Mr Nice] #4589995
11/30/17 03:58 PM
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The IL
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
I'm sure a soda tax will raise the necessary money. smirk



LOL. That was the tax that even Cook County thought was too much. Repealed and back to normal tax burden beginning tomorrow.

Re: How Illinois addresses what they can't pay to fix. [Re: mrsilv04] #4590005
11/30/17 04:10 PM
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Upstate NY
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NY spends a lot on roads and bridges, but has a ton of bridges. When you use salt it's a never ending battle.


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