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New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV #4589577
11/30/17 06:40 AM
11/30/17 06:40 AM
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Tennessee
FlyingVan Offline OP
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I was looking through my stash of filters and noticed that the ADBV of this one does not look too good. This is the 3/4-16 filter similar in size to the Fram 3614. If my decoding ring works right, it was built in the Fayetteville plant on November 18, 2014, Line B, 1st shift. Too bad, since it was louver-less. Hehe.







The ADBV was either installed off center and 2 of the holes are not sealing properly, or the ADBV is just cut all the way through in those 2 holes. I did shone a flashlight through the oil exit hole and you can clearly see light shining through the 2 inlet holes, but not on the other ones. If this filter was to be used, unfiltered oil would bypass the media.

I will try to return it, but if I cannot do that I will open it up and post more photos here.
I still have a few D+ and I will be using those without any concerns. I guess this thought me to look over a filter (any brand) before buying it.





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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589587
11/30/17 06:57 AM
11/30/17 06:57 AM
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Long Island, N.Y.
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"Houston, we have a Problem....."
Unfortunately, the average consumer would not even pick up on that defect.

Good catch!


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589642
11/30/17 08:34 AM
11/30/17 08:34 AM
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Tennessee
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Awhile back I showed a Bosch made by Puro with a adbv installed off center, to one side. This is the same thing it looks like, not cuts. I returned two Boss filters in this size that did have the cuts, although the cuts were tightly sealed. This is one of those once in a while manufacturing glitches. We all know Fram has had their share of them. The other style of Puro filters does not have this issue, the adbv goes into the end cap hole.

Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589670
11/30/17 09:08 AM
11/30/17 09:08 AM
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Tennessee
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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589746
11/30/17 10:51 AM
11/30/17 10:51 AM
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New England, USA
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Good eyes!

I had this exact situation happen once a long time ago. A Mobil 1 filter (Champion made M1-204 if i remember?) bought for my TR6 w/ spin on conversion had the ADBV offset exactly as this. I installed it as it was what I had on hand, hoping it would seal, and when left overnight, the car would take quite a few seconds longer to build pressure. I replaced the filter within a few days.

Lesson learned;I now visually check new filters and only use Mann & Hummel or Hengst on this car.


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589750
11/30/17 10:59 AM
11/30/17 10:59 AM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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If you can't return it, call Bosch (Purolator) and see if they'll do anything about it. Unlikely, but maybe you'll get lucky-the D+ was a $12 filter when it was full (OVER) priced!


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589799
11/30/17 11:58 AM
11/30/17 11:58 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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Good Catch.
I REALLY wish they would put the ADB back in the filter mounting bracket so we don't need this thing on a "two dollar" commodity item.

I'm always peeking into boxes at the store before I buy the filter. More than a couple times an employee came up and asked if I needed "help".
I said I'm a BITOG member smile

They say, what? WHO?!

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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4589812
11/30/17 12:12 PM
11/30/17 12:12 PM
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San Rafael, CA
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Good Catch.
I REALLY wish they would put the ADB back in the filter mounting bracket so we don't need this thing on a "two dollar" commodity item.

I'm always peeking into boxes at the store before I buy the filter. More than a couple times an employee came up and asked if I needed "help".
I said I'm a BITOG member smile

They say, what? WHO?!

smile smile smile


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4589836
11/30/17 12:33 PM
11/30/17 12:33 PM
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Clovis, CA
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That ADBV is supposed to get pushed away from the baseplate as the oil enters the filter. In its current state, it would not get pushed away; instead, it would become one giant catastrophic oil flow restrictor. That filter could have destroyed your engine if you had not noticed the defect and installed it on your engine.

Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: Merkava_4] #4589936
11/30/17 02:10 PM
11/30/17 02:10 PM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
That ADBV is supposed to get pushed away from the baseplate as the oil enters the filter. In its current state, it would not get pushed away; instead, it would become one giant catastrophic oil flow restrictor. That filter could have destroyed your engine if you had not noticed the defect and installed it on your engine.


No not really.

The rest looks fine... I seriously doubt this filter would hurt an engine.


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: Linctex] #4589970
11/30/17 02:30 PM
11/30/17 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
The rest looks fine... I seriously doubt this filter would hurt an engine.

Maybe some if left on and the engine went through many "dry starts" because the ADBV leaked and cause the supply galleries to empty every time the vehicle sat for an hour.

Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: Linctex] #4590006
11/30/17 03:10 PM
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Clovis, CA
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
No not really.

The rest looks fine... I seriously doubt this filter would hurt an engine.


Look at the picture again. The ADBV is supposed to work like a pet's door. The door "flaps" open when the pet pushes through. As it is now, it's not a door that can be pushed open; it's a restrictive screen at best.

Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4590045
11/30/17 03:48 PM
11/30/17 03:48 PM
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Tennessee
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The last picture I posted shows exactly what the valve looks like. One side is off the base plate. There would be no adbv function and a dry start every time in certain positions. Mine was a base down so it would be bad. There still is plenty of flow area total.
Some oil flow would also go past the bare metal where the adbv seals and be unfiltered.

Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4590166
11/30/17 05:30 PM
11/30/17 05:30 PM
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Tennessee
FlyingVan Offline OP
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No restriction at all, just that the ADBV is not functional at all and some oil would bypass the media. I don't believe it would kill an engine, at least not as bad as a torn filter.


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Re: New Bosch Distance Plus D3330 damaged ADBV [Re: FlyingVan] #4590921
12/01/17 11:34 AM
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Freehold, nj
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Thx for posting. Gave me another reason to check the boxes at Wally World.


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