Originally Posted By: sir1900
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
Though the OEM filters may be made well? I am not sure. Sure they are made to spec, but they are made in Mexico, and feel EXTREMELY light in construction compared to the VW OEM filters and the Hyundai OEM filters that I use. In Contrast about 8 OEM Nissan Titan filters weigh about 1 of my VW OEM filters.
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I have several of the short OEMs in my stash and the can is built like a tank. The current OEMs are made by Gohner in Mexico. Last time I checked out a K&N, I didn't notice any real difference in the weight between it and the OEM.
K&N is also made in Mexico.
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Not saying weight has anything to do with anything, its just a cheap feeling filter.
You will not find any filter spec'd for your truck that is at or near the weight of a Hyundai OEM. Hyundai OEM is a bigger filter to begin with. Whatever "feels" decent is not a reflection of how well the filter performs. Performance (filtration) is key.
If size matters, you can try the slightly longer filter if there is room for it. I am currently using the slightly longer OEM in my Q50. As long as the thread size and bypass are the same, you shouldn't have any problems. I use an oversized filter if I am dumping a 5.28 qt jug of oil into the sump, short filter if 5 qts. Oil jugs come in 5 and 5.28 quart jugs up here (in addition to the 1 quart bottle).
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I like Redline Oil, they are local here in California and before they got bought out made some of the best oils out there. I used Redline over the years with great success, but I used the oil to help keep oil temps down in my Lancer Evo's. Switching from M1 to Redline netted about a 20C drop in oil temps on the tracks as noted from my gauge while on track. So the oil served a purpose, plus it kept my engines VERY clean.
For this truck though? Over the counter synthetics should be more than adequate, I may just stick with the Castrol and see what happens.
Castrol is decent stuff. The nice thing about these engines is it needs nothing special. As long as it meets API-SN, you are good to go.
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As for the filter, I would really like something more robust. The OEM NISSAN filter seriously must be made out of some lightweight material because it doesn't weigh hardly anything.
Jeff
The guts inside the filter is far more important than the weight.
FRAM Ultra is a thicker can. Best bang for your buck, but overkill if you are only going to use it for 5k. It also doesn't weigh anywhere near a Hyundai OEM.
I understand all what your saying, but maybe your taking it too much to heart, or out of context when I say the OEM filter is "Light". You come back with efficiency this and that, I get that, and appreciate how you try to explain it.
For me though, I am driving a 4x4 truck that at times goes off road. This OEM filter does not look like it will take a beating. I can squeeze it with my hand and it kinks. This filter may be good for a Sentra, but not for an Off Road Vehicle. Now if you have standard skid plates and all that will give you some protection, but if your lifted, and have those plates off? The OEM filter is totally exposed and its so easy to ding. Thus, having a filer that can actually take a hit and not leak is key.
Now my wifes truck is not some off road beast or anything. It is a stock 4x4, but we may do mods to it later at some time. All of that is irrelevant and is why I didn't go into it earlier.
If you take lets say an OEM Toyota Filter which is about the same size as the NISSAN OEM the Toyota filter weighs more. I do not have a digital scale, but maybe next time I am at Harbor Freight or something I will pick one up and actually get an actual weight comparo. The Nissan Filter is Light.
Now to say "weight" means nothing? I would disagree. Yes of course we want the best filtration, that is a given, but it leads me to believe that the materials used inside are of thin material. I may have to cut one of these open and look, but I am getting a feeling there are no metal end caps, or any reinforcement in there and efficiency aside, just may not be that great of a filter.
As for the filter, all I am saying is this. Size aside, The Nissan Filter Feels and looks cheap in comparison to other OEM filters of same size. I am pushing 7 qts of oil through this dinky filter that is also used on a 1.8 liter 4 banger Sentra. I think Nissan is just being cheap and not having a separate filter for the trucks. Its easier to just have one filter across the board, but man, make a decent sized filter for all, rather than some small lightweight dinky thing.
I will look and see if there are some Vidoes out there of a Nissan filter cut open and lets see if they look good inside or not.
At least for the 5.6 V8 I dont think it would be wise to go for extended drain intervals with the OEM filter. I have no evidence to it being bad, but when your pushing 7qts of oil through this dinky thing for 10k miles? That cant be good. I will definitely stick with 5k intervals if using this OEM filter.
Jeff