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#4588213 - 11/28/17 10:19 PM Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF?
Hot_Ajax Offline


Registered: 07/14/12
Posts: 139
Loc: Bucks County, PA
Getting ready to change ATF. What is allowable ATF's? Of course the owner's manual specifies to use Toyota ATF. Are there others that will get the job done without the visit and expense of the dealership? Thanks in advance. Hot Ajax

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#4588246 - 11/28/17 10:59 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
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Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4737
Loc: MTL, CANADA
Ive heard Maxlife and M1 work well. I have only used OEM until now. I might switch to a full syn M1 or even Maxlife once my DD becomes a 2nd vehicle.

ATF from the dealer isnt too pricey regardless..i think its rebadged Mobil 3309 ATF. Im sure you can find it at Target or elsewhere.

Your Toyota spec T-IV or WS? That will be question 1. The above assumes it specs T-IV


Edited by Rolla07 (11/28/17 11:03 PM)
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#4588250 - 11/28/17 11:05 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
Dude we need to know the vehicle and the year..

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#4588257 - 11/28/17 11:14 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
The year might make a big difference.

For my 03 4Runner, I use Red Line D4. Later 4Runners use a different fluid.

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#4588259 - 11/28/17 11:16 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Rolla07]
Hot_Ajax Offline


Registered: 07/14/12
Posts: 139
Loc: Bucks County, PA
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Ive heard Maxlife and M1 work well. I have only used OEM until now. I might switch to a full syn M1 or even Maxlife once my DD becomes a 2nd vehicle.

ATF from the dealer isnt too pricey regardless..i think its rebadged Mobil 3309 ATF. Im sure you can find it at Target or elsewhere.

Your Toyota spec T-IV or WS? That will be question 1. The above assumes it specs T-IV


Rolla: It specs for Toyota WS. Not too pricey? It's ridiculous. Last time I bot it was around $11 per quart. So what other brands does that conjur up? Thanks for jumping in. Hot ajax


Edited by Hot_Ajax (11/28/17 11:18 PM)

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#4588272 - 11/28/17 11:34 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
Oro_O Offline


Registered: 09/20/14
Posts: 1352
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
Maxlife is a well-matched, much cheaper, and higher quality substitute for WS. WS appears to have multiple global manufacturers that range from adequate to poor in overall quality. Get as much WS out via your preferred method and put in the LV Maxlife equivalent.

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#4588277 - 11/28/17 11:42 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4737
Loc: MTL, CANADA
Originally Posted By: Hot_Ajax
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Ive heard Maxlife and M1 work well. I have only used OEM until now. I might switch to a full syn M1 or even Maxlife once my DD becomes a 2nd vehicle.

ATF from the dealer isnt too pricey regardless..i think its rebadged Mobil 3309 ATF. Im sure you can find it at Target or elsewhere.

Your Toyota spec T-IV or WS? That will be question 1. The above assumes it specs T-IV


Rolla: It specs for Toyota WS. Not too pricey? It's ridiculous. Last time I bot it was around $11 per quart. So what other brands does that conjur up? Thanks for jumping in. Hot ajax


Ouch..didnt know WS was so pricey..T-IV up here is 6-7$ a quart. Go with the Maxlife per the poster above smile


Edited by Rolla07 (11/28/17 11:43 PM)
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#4588313 - 11/29/17 01:33 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
userfriendly Offline


Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 2630
Loc: LaFinDuMonde
without the bother of starting a new topic... What ATF for a 2006 Highlander Hybrid CVT?

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#4588381 - 11/29/17 05:50 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: userfriendly]
eagle23 Offline


Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 504
Loc: Roswell GA
Originally Posted By: userfriendly
without the bother of starting a new topic... What ATF for a 2006 Highlander Hybrid CVT?


Maxlife will probably do well here, too. The Toyota CVTs do not use CVT-specific fluid. Toyota specifies WS.

The reason for the ATF variation is the design of Toyota's CVTs are different from most others. All are CVT, but how they go about accomplishing it is different.

I have a 2013 Avalon hybrid, and use Redline D6.

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#4588515 - 11/29/17 08:29 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2860
Loc: california
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MZLXWV/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1

I wouldn't go with anything but OE, Toyota or this kind where they say it is specifically engineered for Toyota. If you read down in the link, Idemitsu tells a lot about why to avoid multi application fluids.

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#4588566 - 11/29/17 09:37 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
ZebRuaj Offline


Registered: 10/14/16
Posts: 153
Loc: MN
If you fear the warranty or don't want to DIY it, stick to the dealership + WS.

Post warranty, Maxlife ATF drain and fill's in all my Toyota's + family's fleet. Fraction of the cost and no problems to date.
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#4588568 - 11/29/17 09:38 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: goodtimes]
khittner Offline


Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 314
Loc: Michigan
Unless you've got some kind of pump, you'll have to pay someone to do the work on your probably-"sealed" Toyota transmission. I've used MaxLife in my wife's '11 Highlander, which called for WS. It worked fine, but I bought a stash of Amsoil LV for pretty cheap from eBay, so that's what's been in it for the last 65k miles, and it's shifting fine.

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#4588740 - 11/29/17 11:50 AM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3908
Loc: California
I get OEM fluids for not much more than MaxLife. With that said, I've had success with MaxLife and Castrol's IMV fluid. Some Toyota trannies are picky about fluid viscosity even though ML/Castrol IMV synthetic are the same viscosity as used T-IV. The 2nd gen Siennas are prone to this. But I've used MaxLife in a Lexus LS400 and it seemed to work fine... confused

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#4588803 - 11/29/17 12:32 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
quint Offline


Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 371
Loc: Cincinnati
I have used Maxlife in both WS and T-IV applications with no violent explosions yet.
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#4588978 - 11/29/17 02:52 PM Re: Toyota Owners: Spec for ATF? [Re: Hot_Ajax]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
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There are plenty of examples of Maxlife ATF being used in WS spec'ed vehicles without incident.
While this is anecdotal evidence, there is a lot of it.

I decided a while back after a lot of reading and research to use Maxlife ATF in my Scion that is a WS vehicle. ~4 qts drained from he drain plug and same amount of Maxlife ATF added. No problems in 10,000 miles (actually seems to shift a little better).



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