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2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations #4588054
11/28/17 07:48 PM
11/28/17 07:48 PM
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Good evening! I just purchased a 2017 Tucson with a 1.6 turbo engine.

The oil specs in the Tucson owner's manual states ACEA A5 is recommended. However there is a note that states "If ACEA A5 is not available in your country, you are able to use ILSAC GF-3 (or above) or ACEA A3 (or above)". Oils meeting the A5 spec seem limited to fewer choices than GF-5 oils. Which oils are better? A3/A5 oils or GF-5 oils. Should I hunt for A5 or go with a more easily available GF-5 synthetic?

Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588112
11/28/17 08:44 PM
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Most A5/B5 oils in North America will also be SN/GF-5. The simplest solution is Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, with the former being cheaper and probably easier to find.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: Garak] #4588148
11/28/17 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Most A5/B5 oils in North America will also be SN/GF-5. The simplest solution is Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, with the former being cheaper and probably easier to find.


Currently using PP 5w-30 in my Elantra. Like how the oil performs in this car. Enjoy the Tucson!


Truth alone triumphs, not untruth.

2017 Elantra SE
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588160
11/28/17 09:26 PM
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out there
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I have been using pp 5w30 and and some ulta 5w30. I currently have qsud 5w30 in the elantra. I like it just as well.


13 elantra 72k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche 80k synpwr 5w30
17 mazda cx-5 7300 miles m1 0w30
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588224
11/28/17 10:29 PM
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In 5w30, Pennzoil Platinum and Valvoline Synthetic will be your best bets. Both meet A5 according to their spec sheets.






18 Sportage LX: M1AP 5W-20 + M1-104A
13 SFS 2.0T: PP 10W-30 + XG9688
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: wemay] #4588241
11/28/17 10:45 PM
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The only concern is Valvoline equivocates a bit. A5/B5 is a dual rated spec, and you can't claim A5 without B5, or A5/B5 for gasoline engines only.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588247
11/28/17 11:00 PM
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Very true


18 Sportage LX: M1AP 5W-20 + M1-104A
13 SFS 2.0T: PP 10W-30 + XG9688
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588376
11/29/17 05:39 AM
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ON, Canada eh?
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If you want off the shelf then stick to the recommendations already. Otherwise this would be an excellent candidate for Amsoil's re-tuned signature series formulas that are guaranteed 100% protection against LSPI which can happen in this engine and which showed much better deposit control than off the shelf synthetics when it comes to Turbo bearings.

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2880.pdf


Last edited by StevieC; 11/29/17 05:39 AM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - AMSOIL SS 5w20
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588415
11/29/17 06:53 AM
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I run Motorcraft 5w-30 synthetic-blend (is ACEA A5 compliant) and OE oil filter, from Walmart in the 5 qt red jug, in wifes 16 Tuscon with same engine. Change it every 5k miles, rotate tires and done..40k miles on car and zero issues.

Last edited by rossn2; 11/29/17 07:03 AM.

2017 Ram 1500 Crewcab, Custom Ordered 4x4, 3.92 rear, Hemi
2018 Hyundai Sante Fe Sport 30mpg
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Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588423
11/29/17 06:59 AM
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What rossn2 said! You could use a 5W30 synthetic if you wish. Stick with the OE oil filters.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Mobil 1 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588438
11/29/17 07:16 AM
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Among the 3 oils mentioned above:-
PP 5W30 A5B5 is an A5B5;
MC 5W30: some are A5B5 and some are not, depending on which M2C-9xx ; and
Valvoline 5W30 is NOT A5B5.

Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588442
11/29/17 07:20 AM
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Just to be extra careful, I would pick out an A5 oil that also has a dexos1 Gen 2 license...this is the only standard we have now that includes a test showing that a DI turbo engine running that oil had a low level of LSPI occurrence (a GM engine, of course, but I still think it's better than no LSPI testing at all).

Hundreds of oils have dexos1 Gen 2 licenses and more of more of them are showing up on WalMart shelves, at the very least...PPPP 5W30 is an example of one that I've seen locally.
Strange to me that none of the M1 5W30 oils common in the US are A5/B5, seems like they are likely to miss a good hunk of market among people who actually read their manuals?

EDIT - As Stevie C mentioned, Amsoil SS (and XL now?) oils are guaranteed to pass the DIT-related parts of dexos1 Gen 2 even though they do not have licenses for that standard, believe their SA numbers are too high. I think these could also be good choices for the Tucson assuming they are A5.

Last edited by Virtus_Probi; 11/29/17 07:27 AM.

2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4588540
11/29/17 09:00 AM
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The 1.6T Gamma DI engine is nothing new. You can search around the various Hyundai forum for recommendations (although most are in the oil dark-ages with 3K OCI folks). Only the first OCI is 3K and then 5K after that. Hyundai provides some larger sumps (4.75qts) for their DI engines. Dilution is the solution!

Havoline Synthetic is ACEA A5 if you want a better $ option. Heck, you can go 5w30 or heavier!!!!


'15 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 - Havoline 5w-30 & OEM
'14 Subaru Outback 2.5 - NAPA 0w-20 & Wix
'01 Toyota MR2 Spyder - Havoline 5w-30 & Wix
'82 Chevy C10
Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4589125
11/29/17 05:31 PM
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RamAir5 Offline OP
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Thanks for all the replies and advice.

Re: 2017 Tucson 1.6T oil recommendations [Re: RamAir5] #4591697
12/02/17 06:22 AM
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Update

While at the dealership service department yesterday, I asked the service manager what type of oil they use for the Tucson turbos. He said they use Quaker State green bottle 5w-30 (conventional) for everything. When I referred him to the ACEA spec in the owner's manual, he said "that's what's recommended. It's not required". So I guess I was overthinking this a bit. I'm gonna opt for a good synthetic and call it a day.

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