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#4587636 - 11/28/17 01:38 PM Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ?
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 4058
Loc: Midwest USA
In a couple weeks it's said the FCC is considering or actually doing, a repeal of Net Neutrality. It would shift bandwidth from "Everyone is Equal" (consumers, government, and business) to "Some are more Equal than others" ( Animal Farm, George Orwell 1945). That is, your ISP could tack a surcharge onto your account for using streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, SlingTV, etc., or have add on "bandwidth packs" like $XX.00/month for <insert data or bandwidth here> and then add the "Streaming Pkg" for another $10/mo, and etc. Similar to wireless data that's not an offered as an unlimited plan. Or something like that.

I may have butchered the concept a bit since I'm not real up to date on it and only skimmed the latest news blurb about it.

But it sounds like a screwing for consumers. Someone here knows more, please share.

Here's a rather alarming illustration of the concept of what consumers might face from their ISP's if Net Neutrality is repealed:

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#4587651 - 11/28/17 01:59 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
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Rush was talking about this today said its total Bovine Scat!
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#4587652 - 11/28/17 02:00 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3010
Loc: Occupied Virginia
I love how this was sold as being a good thing for the public when all it will be is a money-maker for the ISPs. Looks like the repeal will happen, but like pretty much everything else, there is so much other garbage currently going on in the government, nobody is paying attention to what this actually means.

Ajit Pai is another two-faced crooked politician doing what the corporations want and not what the people want. But who's surprised anymore?

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#4587653 - 11/28/17 02:01 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
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I expect this to turn into a rock-throwing discussion where everyone is divided based on where they get their news. The tribalism that I see going on these days is disconcerting.

IBTL
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#4587668 - 11/28/17 02:21 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: Bandito440]
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#4587679 - 11/28/17 02:31 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
mk378 Offline


Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 1420
Loc: USA
I have not seen a single argument of how this proposed rule change could in any way lead to a consumer's Internet experience being better or less expensive.

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#4587702 - 11/28/17 02:56 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: mk378]
Jimzz Offline


Registered: 10/03/14
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Loc: NoVA
Originally Posted By: mk378
I have not seen a single argument of how this proposed rule change could in any way lead to a consumer's Internet experience being better or less expensive.


something republican talking point something Corporations are people, my friend /something republican talking point something
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#4587730 - 11/28/17 03:24 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
madRiver Offline


Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3538
Loc: New England
I personally don't see how any of this benefits a consumer. I won't go into the politics end of it......

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#4587735 - 11/28/17 03:25 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: Bandito440]
bbhero Offline


Registered: 03/20/15
Posts: 4627
Loc: Virginia
Great post Bandito440.
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#4587739 - 11/28/17 03:29 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17776
Loc: PNW
It will just turn the internet into another money grab for businesses. I think it will actually hurt some if they try to tack on fees to use their services. Lots of money in advertising already going on with places like Google, YouTube, etc. Take away users and that ad money generating base may suffer more than what they would collect in added use fees.

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#4587742 - 11/28/17 03:38 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: Bandito440]
DBMaster Offline


Registered: 09/18/12
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Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
I expect this to turn into a rock-throwing discussion where everyone is divided based on where they get their news. The tribalism that I see going on these days is disconcerting.

IBTL


It will turn too political soon enough and get locked.

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#4587760 - 11/28/17 03:59 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: LoneRanger]
Sunnyinhollister Offline


Registered: 06/27/09
Posts: 730
Loc: Hollister, CA
Regulation = bad and costs the consumer more money
De-regulation = bad and cost the consumer more money
Don't trust the government because they are evil
Don't trust corporation because they are evil
More taxes and more spending = more debt and that is good
Less taxes and more spending = more debt and that is bad

My head hurts


Edited by Sunnyinhollister (11/28/17 04:00 PM)
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#4587773 - 11/28/17 04:08 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: Sunnyinhollister]
Alfred_B Offline


Registered: 05/12/15
Posts: 1968
Loc: America
Originally Posted By: Sunnyinhollister
Regulation = bad and costs the consumer more money
De-regulation = bad and cost the consumer more money
Don't trust the government because they are evil
Don't trust corporation because they are evil
More taxes and more spending = more debt and that is good
Less taxes and more spending = more debt and that is bad

My head hurts


Consider the details of each situation carefully instead of painting everything with a wide brush.

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#4587783 - 11/28/17 04:17 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: ZeeOSix]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 4058
Loc: Midwest USA
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
It will just turn the internet into another money grab for businesses. I think it will actually hurt some if they try to tack on fees to use their services. Lots of money in advertising already going on with places like Google, YouTube, etc. Take away users and that ad money generating base may suffer more than what they would collect in added use fees.


+1, this seems to be the general feeling I get from the issue.
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#4587793 - 11/28/17 04:33 PM Re: Net Neutrality Repeal Will Up Your Internet Bill ? [Re: mk378]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32637
Loc: ME
Originally Posted By: mk378
I have not seen a single argument of how this proposed rule change could in any way lead to a consumer's Internet experience being better or less expensive.


It would go into something like your kids are trying to do homework and it's going real slow because your neighbor's streaming 4K porn on the same fiber optic trunk line and they just want you to have priority bandwidth.

They wouldn't change things dramatically tomorrow-- they'd boil the frog slowly.

Please also remember that cable TV considers itself a convenience, not a utility, and not subject to the same regulations. The net non-neutrality bill also cements that the FCC is the final arbiter of such things and states will not have the rights to set their own rules.

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