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Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed #4586982
11/27/17 08:01 PM
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Fairfax, VA
TinyVoices Offline OP
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After driving the ranger I posted about and deciding it won't work, I have the option to buy a 2004 g35 sedan with the 6 speed for stupid cheap.

I previously owned one of these with the same exact engine but it was an 04 coupe 6mt. I put a vortech v3 supercharger on that and made 450whp but I no longer have the car. I ran 10w30 and it was fine but I was always easy on the car.

This sedan will be a drift car. It will get a 2 way LSD, coilovers, sticky rubber up front, hydro hand brake, and angle kit. I already have some parts for this car and I know the chassis well. The aftermarket is also huge for this car because it is mechanically identical to the 350z so thats a plus. engine will remain stock for the 2018 season assuming it makes it that long.

What oil should I run to avoid spinning a bearing, which these engines are known to do? It will spend lots of time at the limiter. I want to make this motor last to the end of the 2018 grassroots season before I swap it.

Thanks!


2010 Mazda RX8 Sport - 37k miles - ????
2006 Toyota Matrix XR AWD (Wife) - 130k miles - Valvoline Max Life 5w30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4586992
11/27/17 08:11 PM
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Castrol or M1 0w40

The M1 15w-50 is also stout. Straight 40 is another option

Last edited by SilverFusion2010; 11/27/17 08:15 PM.

2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4586996
11/27/17 08:11 PM
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20W50.


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Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587001
11/27/17 08:15 PM
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The VQ's do seem to like a 10W30:

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g27.pdf


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Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: aquariuscsm] #4587004
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TinyVoices Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
20W50.


Was thinking the same but there will be a few events in February and March and it'll still be cold. And id like to drive the car on the street some while it's being built and refined this winter.


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Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587010
11/27/17 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
20W50.


Was thinking the same but there will be a few events in February and March and it'll still be cold. And id like to drive the car on the street some while it's being built and refined this winter.


I'd seriously consider the 0w-40. Porsche A40 AECA A3/B4. Lots of anti-wear additives


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587014
11/27/17 08:24 PM
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TinyVoices Offline OP
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I'm not worried about wear. I'm worried about spinning a bearing.

I'd rather wear the motor the [censored] out and have it make it one season before the swap than have it spin a bearing on the second event.


2010 Mazda RX8 Sport - 37k miles - ????
2006 Toyota Matrix XR AWD (Wife) - 130k miles - Valvoline Max Life 5w30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587040
11/27/17 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
I'm not worried about wear. I'm worried about spinning a bearing.

I'd rather wear the motor the [censored] out and have it make it one season before the swap than have it spin a bearing on the second event.


After that ignorant statement I suggest you read about the causes of spun bearing.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/03/engine-bearing-technology-spin-spun-bearings/

Anti wear packages come into play when the oil film allows metal to metal contact.... by providing boundary lubrication.

Good luck


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587086
11/27/17 10:09 PM
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Castrol, Mobil, or Pennzoil 0W-40 ought to do the trick. All available at WM.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587138
11/28/17 12:16 AM
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5w-40


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1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30, AMSOIL OE MV ATF.
AMSOIL in EVERYTHING!
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587149
11/28/17 01:13 AM
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4 quarts of Mobil1 15w-50, and remaining capacity in Mobil1 0w-40. I'd also overfill by half a quart considering the upcoming abuse and near-redline duty cycle.

Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4587192
11/28/17 05:20 AM
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TinyVoices Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
I'm not worried about wear. I'm worried about spinning a bearing.

I'd rather wear the motor the [censored] out and have it make it one season before the swap than have it spin a bearing on the second event.


After that ignorant statement I suggest you read about the causes of spun bearing.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/03/engine-bearing-technology-spin-spun-bearings/

Anti wear packages come into play when the oil film allows metal to metal contact.... by providing boundary lubrication.

Good luck


Excellent info there. Thanks. Dunno if calling me ignorant was necessary. Always interested in learning.


2010 Mazda RX8 Sport - 37k miles - ????
2006 Toyota Matrix XR AWD (Wife) - 130k miles - Valvoline Max Life 5w30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587273
11/28/17 07:45 AM
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Kendall, FL
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Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
I'm not worried about wear. I'm worried about spinning a bearing.

I'd rather wear the motor the [censored] out and have it make it one season before the swap than have it spin a bearing on the second event.


After that ignorant statement I suggest you read about the causes of spun bearing.

http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/03/engine-bearing-technology-spin-spun-bearings/

Anti wear packages come into play when the oil film allows metal to metal contact.... by providing boundary lubrication.

Good luck


Excellent info there. Thanks. Dunno if calling me ignorant was necessary. Always interested in learning.


Interesting link, SilverFusion2010.

Excerpt from "causes..."




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Next: VME 5/30

13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
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Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587334
11/28/17 09:05 AM
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I wouldn’t consider 0W-40 “thick racing oil” by any means. It’s barely in the 40-grade. I believe Mobil is the thinnest one... almost a 30 weight.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Vq35de oil for engine that will be thrashed [Re: TinyVoices] #4587416
11/28/17 10:35 AM
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https://www.mobil.com/English-US/Passenger-Vehicle-Lube/pds/GLXXMobil-1-FS-0W-40

M1 0w-40 is a good strong oil for performance applications. Porsche A40 is a strong spec


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