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Opinions on this mix/blend? #4586374
11/27/17 08:46 AM
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I'm trying to come up with a middleish weight 30 weight and have a 5qt jug of M1 0w-40 FS (GTL version).

I'm thinking about buying 3 quarts of PPPP 0w-20 (GTL version D1G1 which is high calcium no mag like M1).

3 quarts of each making a 6 qt blend, what's your thoughts? Both are GTL, both have high calcium, no mag, etc.

Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586384
11/27/17 08:58 AM
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ON, Canada eh?
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IMO it's not good to mix chemistries of oils. Not because impending harm will come to your engine but you might not get the same performance characteristics out of the blend that you would with one oil. You would be better off looking at the data sheets to find the middle weight in an oil and go with that only.


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586390
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I hear ya, just looking to use the M1 rather than throw it out..

Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586399
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What engine would this being going in and what's it rated for now?


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586405
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From some of the mixes I've seen around here, yours actually makes sense with similar chemistry. Such blending in New England weather poses less risk in the spring-fall since you aren't worried so much on the oil mix works at the low viscosity end of the spectrum.

If the car weren't anything special I'd be mixing those same oils if I wanted to use up the M1. Ideally, an OCI less than what either oil can normally do.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586408
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People do "franken-brews" all the time - I have NEVER heard of a single negative outcome.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586412
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Originally Posted By: jdavis
...just looking to use the M1 rather than throw it out.


What person who isn't clinically insane throws away an item of great value?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: StevieC] #4586420
11/27/17 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
What engine would this being going in and what's it rated for now?


LGX (in trucks) LGZ (in cars) 3.6 calls for 5w-30 normally, probably fine to run straight 0w-40 m1 in it, just not sure how much it would affect mileage..

Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: Linctex] #4586421
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Originally Posted By: Linctex

What person who isn't clinically insane throws away an item of great value?


Yeah, I wouldn't throw it out, it'd get used in something smile

Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586422
11/27/17 09:28 AM
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You need 6 quarts ~ use the whole jug and one quart ... quarts are expensive unless grabbed on clearance …
That is not a thicker 40 to start with … I run it in our Cruze now …


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586428
11/27/17 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: jdavis
Originally Posted By: StevieC
What engine would this being going in and what's it rated for now?


LGX (in trucks) LGZ (in cars) 3.6 calls for 5w-30 normally, probably fine to run straight 0w-40 m1 in it, just not sure how much it would affect mileage..


Run it in the summer as it is, you will be fine. smile


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586621
11/27/17 01:32 PM
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Just sub 1 qt out of your sump with the 40 in spring through fall

Everytime ive done a dumbbell blend its never been good.

evertime ive added a 40 to a 30 its been all gravy, Davey!

throw out euro 40 ? Nuts! Throw out the junk ILSAC GF


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: Linctex] #4586673
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
People do "franken-brews" all the time - I have NEVER heard of a single negative outcome.


Here you go

http://papers.sae.org/932831/

I personally think its' likely that most of us don't push the extremes of the "W" rating that we hear of relatively few.

The linked SAE papers, the oils gelled at comparatively "normal" temperatures due to VII/PPD interaction between the factory fill residual and the service fill.

Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586760
11/27/17 03:37 PM
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I wouldn’t have the first thought about using it in anything ‘round here. Might cut the OCI interval a little short tho...

Someone here once opined that if your heart meds clash, you die. If your oil add packs clash, you wind up with 10 more ppm Fe in your UOA...

Blend on brother, blend on!


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Re: Opinions on this mix/blend? [Re: jdavis] #4586763
11/27/17 03:41 PM
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Wouldn't it make sense to use it up in an oil change soon as it's a 0w? Why wait until summer to do the 0w-40 run?

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