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Break Fluid??! #4585915
11/26/17 05:27 PM
11/26/17 05:27 PM
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miden851 Offline OP
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My old car calls for DOT 4; I was wondering how important is the replacement for you and how many of you keep up with maintenance of the fluid;

On the note, I replaced mine today after many, many miles, and little or if any difference in braking power IMO








Last edited by miden851; 11/26/17 05:32 PM.

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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585926
11/26/17 05:41 PM
11/26/17 05:41 PM
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'murica
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You can't break a fluid

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585928
11/26/17 05:43 PM
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My favorite fluid on breaks is water you should try it


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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585935
11/26/17 05:48 PM
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I have been saying it for years (but no one will listen) that a well designed brake system will keep the fluid dry. Furthermore, even if water gets in the fluid, unless your in the mountains or towing, your not going to boil the fluid. I never bleed my brakes yet have never replaced a caliper. Go figure.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585937
11/26/17 05:49 PM
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It's important and I keep up with replacement.

I was a mechanic at a Honda dealer eons ago before more education and eventually becoming a UPS semi mechanic.
Don't be disappointed your brakes don't feel better. I've worked on my share of vehicles where the brake fluid was never changed and caused expensive repairs.
Brake fluid accumulates moisture over time. Brake fluid is cheap. Replacing an ABS pump is not. Losing your brakes away from home is no fun either.


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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585940
11/26/17 05:53 PM
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I replace the brake fluid when replacing pads and rotors.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: philipp10] #4585942
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Originally Posted By: philipp10
I have been saying it for years (but no one will listen) that a well designed brake system will keep the fluid dry. Furthermore, even if water gets in the fluid, unless your in the mountains or towing, your not going to boil the fluid. I never bleed my brakes yet have never replaced a caliper. Go figure.


Explain how brake fluid gets dark over time.


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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: philipp10] #4585959
11/26/17 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: philipp10
I have been saying it for years (but no one will listen) that a well designed brake system will keep the fluid dry. Furthermore, even if water gets in the fluid, unless your in the mountains or towing, your not going to boil the fluid. I never bleed my brakes yet have never replaced a caliper. Go figure.

If you keep your car for only a few years this is correct. Why change it? If you keep it for a long time, change it regularly. Your brake system corrodes from within and you canít see it and one day it will fail you. Mine did and luckily I was in a parking lot. I would have been in deep kimchi had I been on the highway.


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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585961
11/26/17 06:09 PM
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Old brake fluid can break brakes.


Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585965
11/26/17 06:13 PM
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It's just like any other fluid. It degrades and gets contaminated over time. Just change it and feel good about it.
BTW: It gets dark from the rubber lines.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585972
11/26/17 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: miden851
My old car calls for DOT 4; I was wondering how important is the replacement for you and how many of you keep up with maintenance of the fluid;

On the note, I replaced mine today after many, many miles, and little or if any difference in braking power IMO





You won't notice any difference in "braking power" (whatever that is meant to mean). As long as the brake fluid is a liquid, it'll work right up until it isn't.

Then it won't.

Water would work as a brake fluid, until it didn't

If (as is likely) old brake fluid caused corrosion in the system, you MIGHT notice some deterioration in function (sticking pistons, for example) prior to (possibly catastophic) failure.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: miden851] #4585975
11/26/17 06:26 PM
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Brake fluid is hygroscopic and absorbs water from the air and once absorbed, it cannot be separated. I change mine every 3-4 years, not a major expense and it keeps the system fresh and working well.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: 2015_PSD] #4586003
11/26/17 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Brake fluid is hygroscopic and absorbs water from the air and once absorbed, it cannot be separated. I change mine every 3-4 years, not a major expense and it keeps the system fresh and working well.

Right. I do about 2 years which might be overly cautious but I like to keep it fresh.


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Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: skyactiv] #4586007
11/26/17 07:04 PM
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Dark? More than likely that is seal material. Seals are black.

Re: Break Fluid??! [Re: E150GT] #4586009
11/26/17 07:06 PM
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philipp10 Offline
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Originally Posted By: E150GT
Originally Posted By: philipp10
I have been saying it for years (but no one will listen) that a well designed brake system will keep the fluid dry. Furthermore, even if water gets in the fluid, unless your in the mountains or towing, your not going to boil the fluid. I never bleed my brakes yet have never replaced a caliper. Go figure.

If you keep your car for only a few years this is correct. Why change it? If you keep it for a long time, change it regularly. Your brake system corrodes from within and you canít see it and one day it will fail you. Mine did and luckily I was in a parking lot. I would have been in deep kimchi had I been on the highway.


I have always drove my cars 12-14 years....

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