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Toughman OCI competition. #4585491
11/26/17 12:53 PM
11/26/17 12:53 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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I think it would be awesome to see a BITOG OCI competition. Lets see your Penzoil platinum and Fram ultras run with a 30k OCI. Lets see Dollar general motor oil with a Chinese filter run a 15k oci.

It would be interesting to have a Toughmanesque competition in regards to OCI.

You would have to drive alot which I no longer do, and have enough disposible income to repair or replace you vehicle if the limit were pushed too far, which I do not have. So sadly i can not take part in the BITOG Toughman, but is anyone else interested?

Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585496
11/26/17 12:57 PM
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The cost there for me would be too great.

I'll stick with my conservative OCI.

In 2011 I did get an Audi 80 from a fellow soldier for free though. It had an OLD Fram can installed. He owned the car for 2 years and never changed the oil.

I didn't either. Just let it ride.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585501
11/26/17 01:02 PM
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There was a situation where my parents did a Toughman OCI on their van either inadvertently or thru apathy.

I changed the Oil on my parents 02 2.4l Caravan sometime back in 2005, I used Mobil one 5w30 and a mobil one filter. I periodically ask my father if he changed the oil periodically about a year after that and he told me he did.

Well come 2009 or so and 20k to 30k miles later I looked at the dipstick and the oil looked dirty, I asked him and he said it had been a while since it was changed.

So I Got the stuff and changed it for them and lo an behold there was a fairly rusty mobil one oil filter on there which I know was the one I had put on.

I wish I still had that filter to cut open. It would have been interesting to do a UOA on it as well.

Last edited by 5AcresAndAFool; 11/26/17 01:03 PM.
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585508
11/26/17 01:05 PM
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The 06 only gets like 3-4k miles a year, The 05 maybe 5-6k a year.


05 GMC Yukon XL SLT 5.3 CE 5w30 51042
06 Chevy Trailblazer LS 4.2 PP 5w30 XG9837
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585524
11/26/17 01:11 PM
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About 20 or so years ago, I ran a Motorcraft FL-1A on a Ford 400M 2-bbl V8 for 30,000 miles with 3-10K OCI's (15W-40 farm tractor oil) and after cutting it open, I could see no damage... and other than some very small carbon bits, it looked just fine and I probably could have kept running it.

I know of several vehicles in the 1990's that were running Mobil 1 oil to 50,000 miles.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585547
11/26/17 01:31 PM
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My brother had a big 1979 with a 305, Ford cougar that had 250K on it when he bought it. He used it as a college car and it had slow rear seal leaks and some other oil leaks and probably burned oil as well, It leaked and burned oil to the point where he was adding a qt every 500 miles or so, so it like changing oil by proxy. He did change filters every 10 k or so and use the cheapest 10w30 oil he could find. That car had about 400 k on it when he finally traded it in for something newer.


2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using the cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585558
11/26/17 01:39 PM
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I'm on the extended OCI train for non-turbo engines. Not 30k, but I'll use a quality synthetic and no longer worry about running the OLM to 0%


2018 Challenger SRT
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585598
11/26/17 02:13 PM
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There is a big difference between tough and stupid.


2009 Galant-ultra oil and filter
1987 Ford F-150 302
Smittys 5-30
Motorcraft filter
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585618
11/26/17 02:30 PM
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I see it everyday, lube stickers don't mean much to some people - 5 years, 40 or 50,000km between oil changes. Seldom a problem, engines and oils can handle it no worries.


1987 BMW R65 - Penrite V Twin 20/50
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585627
11/26/17 02:39 PM
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In order to truly be like a Toughman contest, prior to performing the oil change you would need to film your self Flailing a Flurry of Haymakers, bar room brawl style, until you're gassed out by 30 seconds in.



'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QS HM 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585826
11/26/17 05:16 PM
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Indianapolis, IN
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I won't run a cheap china filter. But I'll run a EG and RK oil. Already run those for 10k miles. What's another 5k miles?


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: dnewton3] #4585879
11/26/17 05:53 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
I won't run a cheap china filter. But I'll run a EG and RK oil. Already run those for 10k miles. What's another 5k miles?


True. Of course the spirit of the tough-man is pushing it to the razor sharp edge. Would you run 20k on that? Could you? Whats the limit?

In a true tough man competition its not over until someone ends up in the hospital or bleeding.... Ahh to be a teenager again.

Last edited by 5AcresAndAFool; 11/26/17 05:55 PM.
Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585922
11/26/17 06:38 PM
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No thanks, I have seen what a replacement Coyote engine costs. 5K OCIs even with 9qts of 5W50 are cheaper over the long haul than a new engine.


2014 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack
1995 Ford Mustang GT

Ford/Mazda Parts Counter
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Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4585978
11/26/17 07:29 PM
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No thanks. I will continue to do my conservative 10K OCI.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Toughman OCI competition. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4586017
11/26/17 08:14 PM
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5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Well the OCI Tough-man isn't is for everyone, including me. I just think it would be interesting to see just how far you can go.

Last edited by 5AcresAndAFool; 11/26/17 08:16 PM.
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