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Shooting with glasses Q? #4584804
11/25/17 06:55 PM
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As I age I am getting more and more nearsighted. I can see tiny print on a can easily 3ft away. I cant see clearly over 10ft or so.

When shooting if I wear my glasses I can see the target fine. But I can' see the sites on the gun.

Opposite if I take the glasses off. I bought bifocals and wore them for 2 years. Cant stand them. I cant walk with them on without tripping over stuff or falling off a curb.

Shooting is no longer fun for this reason. Any ideas?


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584824
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I have progressive lenses and have found that I have to hold the pistol up and slowly tilt my head forward or backward until the sight pic is clear.
I have also started bringing the site pic closer to my face. It results in a longer time between shots.
I also shoot large targets i.e. soup cans or a bright orange rubber reactive target. The progressive lenses are expensive but I can usually find a decent site pic.

Iíve been taught that the site pic is more important than focusing on the target.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584860
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In order of importance: front sight, (rear sight, target). I'm farsighted, I got some readers that just barely get the front sight in focus, the rear sight on a pistol and the target aren't crisp but I can manage. I can't use a rifle with traditional open sights at all, peep sights are a different story, do fine with them. Progressives are terrible with iron sights as noted. I get my bifocals cut higher than normal on the lens so I don't have to tip my head back much to use the close lens. Shooting outside I can get by with the bifocals, inside forget it. Seems like you could find a lens RX that moves your closest focus out to the front sight, that would help with the target and the rear sight should be usable. If you're trying to shoot open sights indoors good luck, the low light opens your pupils up and you depth of field gets narrow. My optometrist made me some glasses with my dominant eye bifocal lens set for the front sight, the other eye is a normal reading RX. Don't even notice it. Hope something in all that helps.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584881
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Hereís a radical idea: Stop shooting if you canít see what youíre doing anymore?

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Originally Posted By: khittner
Hereís a radical idea: Stop shooting if you canít see what youíre doing anymore?
no way! I can still shoot. Very close to my target but not hit it like I used to.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584922
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I shoot with progressive lenses and while it took a little getting used to, I love them now.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584953
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Another option is to get a red dot sight so you can just focus on the target. But that can lead to other issues where the dot becomes a blur due to the shape of the lens in your eye.

Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584974
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
As I age I am getting more and more nearsighted. I can see tiny print on a can easily 3ft away. I cant see clearly over 10ft or so.

When shooting if I wear my glasses I can see the target fine. But I can' see the sites on the gun.

Opposite if I take the glasses off. I bought bifocals and wore them for 2 years. Cant stand them. I cant walk with them on without tripping over stuff or falling off a curb.

Shooting is no longer fun for this reason. Any ideas?


I have worn glasses since the 1st grads . When I got to 40 , my arms were too short to move a book far enough away to focus .

Bi-foals . Drove me crazy . Took me a year untill I could wear them 8 hours . That's life , getting old is not for cowards or wimps .

Now I wear tri-focals .


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584984
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Chris142 - is the condition the same in both eyes? My eyes have different issues. Although I am right eye dominant (more or less) I see up close better with the left and better farther away with the right. If I want to clearly see the target, I use my right eye, but I lose clarity on the front sight. Hence, I have started using my left eye, which does seem to require some alteration in point of aim since I'm right handed. This is with a handgun, a rifle still gives me trouble since I cannot shoot left handed.

Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584991
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
no way! I can still shoot. Very close to my target but not hit it like I used to.

There surely must be something in the literature or at one of the shooting sites. Years ago, I had read stuff on the matter in shooting magazines, but that was way too long ago to offer anything of any use. Before I had laser surgery many years ago, I was highly nearsighted, but still enjoyed shooting. Fortunately, my glasses were good enough to give me distance vision, too.

In any case, all my instructors have always stated to concentrate on the pistol sights, and the target last, as already indicated in the thread.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4584999
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: khittner
Hereís a radical idea: Stop shooting if you canít see what youíre doing anymore?
no way! I can still shoot. Very close to my target but not hit it like I used to.


Stop shooting? Wrong! You need MORE practice.

What guns are you shooting and at what range? I though you were supposed to be able to focus on the front sight.

Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: JamesBond] #4585004
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Originally Posted By: JamesBond
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: khittner
Hereís a radical idea: Stop shooting if you canít see what youíre doing anymore?
no way! I can still shoot. Very close to my target but not hit it like I used to.


Stop shooting? Wrong! You need MORE practice.

What guns are you shooting and at what range? I though you were supposed to be able to focus on the front sight.
tomorrow I will be shooting my Kahr cw9 semi auto,marlin 3030 and a 20ga side by side shotgun I have never shot yet.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: FloatingBrick] #4585005
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Originally Posted By: FloatingBrick
Chris142 - is the condition the same in both eyes?
very close. Both are near sighted.left being slighly better than the right @ 15ft or so.


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Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4585105
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What you need is a pair of Diopter Shooting Glasses. These are nothing new, and have been around for years, and they work very well. What they do is "trick" your eyes into being able to focus on both the sights and target at the same time. It works on the same principal how a camera allows more depth of field focus in a photograph, through a higher F number, (smaller aperture), setting on the lens itself.

I've had mine for years. The were made by a company called HySkore. I got them from Midway. But they're now showing them as discontinued. You might be able to pick them up somewhere else. You see many Olympic rimfire shooters using them. So I know they're still being manufactured. These are the one's I have. They're like a microwave oven or a garage door opener. Once you have them you'll wonder how you lived without them for so long.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/116708/hyskore-pro-optic-aid-kit

Here is an article on how they work. They even show you how to use electrical tape to make your own. Or you can buy the aperture itself from an outfit called Merit Optical.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/07/diopter-devices-aid-old-eyes/

http://www.meritcorporation.com/products.html

Re: Shooting with glasses Q? [Re: Chris142] #4585135
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This is an older video. But it explains how this whole aperture system works, and allows your eyes to focus on both the sights, and the target at the same time. Bi Focal's, or any other kind of prescription eyeglasses will do nothing to correct this condition.

http://www.muzzleblasts.com/archives/vol4no6/articles/mbo46-5.shtml


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