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Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing #4582853
11/23/17 11:35 AM
11/23/17 11:35 AM
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5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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This is a Napa Gold filter off a early 90s honda and I know it had less than 1k miles on the OCI. They time was over a year, but i dont know how long. Then the filter got stored outside in a tote that got moisture and dirt in it. The filter never got submerged though. The moisture in the oil is from this, as is a bit of dirt im sure.

The pleat spacing is very inconsistent, and the ADBV is torn. I dont know is something happened to tear the ADBV since the filter just came into my possession, but somehow it did tear.

The pleat spacing is my main concern, I noted no tears, but this was a very low OCI filter.

This filter was Henco En Mexico. I am not sure how many plants they have. This was also installed by a napa autocare center, not that it necessarily matters.











Last edited by 5AcresAndAFool; 11/23/17 11:37 AM.
Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582856
11/23/17 11:41 AM
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Looks like that filter got the last of the paper on that roll and they made it work.


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Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582861
11/23/17 11:45 AM
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Is that the same filter in the first pic and following pics? Man that's a little scary.


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Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582876
11/23/17 11:53 AM
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Houston, Texas
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It looks like WIX took lessons from Purolator. Not good. frown

Last edited by WellOiled; 11/23/17 11:56 AM.

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Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582879
11/23/17 11:58 AM
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Wide pleats at the seam 1st place award. Media is strong if it didn't fail with that pleat spacing.

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582882
11/23/17 12:01 PM
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AMAZING the wide pleats didn't tear, though.


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Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582885
11/23/17 12:05 PM
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Cajun Country, La.
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Are ALL WIX GOLD filters built like that? I had once considered trying a WIX GOLD filter equivalent to the FL-400S, but after seeing that one............ shocked

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582888
11/23/17 12:11 PM
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What kind of car did this come off of and what was the oil in use and its weight?

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/23/17 12:12 PM.

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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
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Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4582889
11/23/17 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Is that the same filter in the first pic and following pics? Man that's a little scary.


Yes it is. Its either the pleat spacing is really non uniform or they ran short on material.

Its hard to believe its the same filter.

This picture illustrates it a little better.

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4582891
11/23/17 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
What kind of car did this come off of and what was the oil in use?


It was a Honda crx with under 100k original miles, as far as the oil I dont know. I assume it was 5w30 bulk oil. The oil residue on the filter looks like there was moisture uin the oil from storing the used filter outside in a tote that got water in it.

The filter was stored for a while after it was removed from service.

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: ZeeOSix] #4582893
11/23/17 12:14 PM
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I know. The only thing is the filter had less than 1k miles on it with very few cold starts. The oil was changed based on time, not miles.

If that was in service over a brutal winter for 7500 miles or so I bet it would have tore.

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582894
11/23/17 12:15 PM
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Manufacture date? Here's a pic of an NG 1334 posted in July by car51 at 7k miles, made in the US. From this thread



Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582905
11/23/17 12:26 PM
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That looks terrible. Now we know what made in Mexico filters look like inside. Thanks for the cut and paste.

Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582912
11/23/17 12:34 PM
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Houston, Texas
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Where is WIX QC? 1) Wide pleat spacing and 2) Torn ADBV. Media must be good to keep it from tearing.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Napa Gold Cut open, W I D E pleat spacing [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4582916
11/23/17 12:37 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: 5AcresAndAFool
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
What kind of car did this come off of and what was the oil in use?


It was a Honda crx with under 100k original miles, as far as the oil I dont know. I assume it was 5w30 bulk oil. The oil residue on the filter looks like there was moisture uin the oil from storing the used filter outside in a tote that got water in it.

The filter was stored for a while after it was removed from service.


My guess it was 5w-30 dino and it gathered some moisture that froze in the filter media.


2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
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