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#4580982 - 11/21/17 12:11 PM Year old oil in new car
Indydriver Offline


Registered: 03/20/11
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Loc: Indiana
So, manufacturers and oil producers uniformly recommend that oil be changed after one year regardless of mileage. My daughter bought a 2017 Mazda CX-3 in September. The car was built in June of 2016. It now has 500 miles on it. Would you change the oil?
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#4580985 - 11/21/17 12:15 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
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No the time started when you drove it off the lot!
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#4580987 - 11/21/17 12:19 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
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Registered: 03/04/17
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That Mazda will have the Idemitsu Mazda Moly oil from Japan. I wouldn’t change it.

Great car.
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#4580994 - 11/21/17 12:30 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
i_hate_autofraud Offline


Registered: 05/19/16
Posts: 697
Loc: Canada

Oil in the ground is 100 million years old, 1 -2 years in a car sitting on a lot is not a problem.

Oil companies like to scare us into buying more and throwing away good oil!

I have a 'garage queen' with 9 year old used oil, 5,000 miles on the oil, turns out
the UOA showed the oil as still good! Go figure!

However if a car is left outside for 9 years, I'd check for water, etc, in the oil
before I ran it!

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#4580997 - 11/21/17 12:34 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: PimTac]
Indydriver Offline


Registered: 03/20/11
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Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: PimTac
That Mazda will have the Idemitsu Mazda Moly oil from Japan. I wouldn’t change it.

Great car.


Thanks. The car was built in Hiroshima so you’re probably right about the FF. I already stocked some Mazda Moly oil and Mazda oil filters. That Mazda oil is not easy to get, nor is it cheap. You should see the ownership kit sent directly to her from Mazda. With a personalized letter from the CEO of the company, it looked like Apple packaging. Mazda is a class act.
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#4581000 - 11/21/17 12:36 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
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The oil in my Ram's sump is over 3 years old with a few thousand miles on it. It doesn't get driven much anymore. The "fresh" oil changed into my wife's new VW was sitting in the basement stash for 6 years prior to that. I must be some sort of motor oil contrarian.

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#4581005 - 11/21/17 12:39 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: UberArchetype]
Indydriver Offline


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Loc: Indiana
Good point about the age of the DIY’ers stash. I put some 0W-30 in my Tahoe a couple weeks ago and noticed it was SM.


Edited by Indydriver (11/21/17 12:40 PM)
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#4581007 - 11/21/17 12:40 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
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I wouldn't change it.
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#4581014 - 11/21/17 12:45 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 5714
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Indydriver
So, manufacturers and oil producers uniformly recommend that oil be changed after one year regardless of mileage.


I have never followed this, and I see no need to.

Can you provide factual evidence that backs up this thought?
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#4581019 - 11/21/17 12:47 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Linctex]
Indydriver Offline


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Sure.
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#4581033 - 11/21/17 01:06 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 3475
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Originally Posted By: PimTac
That Mazda will have the Idemitsu Mazda Moly oil from Japan. I wouldn’t change it.

Great car.


Thanks. The car was built in Hiroshima so you’re probably right about the FF. I already stocked some Mazda Moly oil and Mazda oil filters. That Mazda oil is not easy to get, nor is it cheap. You should see the ownership kit sent directly to her from Mazda. With a personalized letter from the CEO of the company, it looked like Apple packaging. Mazda is a class act.





Looks like I have something to look forward to in the mail.
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#4581047 - 11/21/17 01:19 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
old1 Offline


Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 964
Loc: Columbus Nebraska
I kinda think the idea of changing it in a year regardless of mileage is they think if you have few miles it has had a lot of short trips, probably in all kinds of weather conditions, so it needs changed in no more than a year. if the car was not driven like that it doesn't hold true.
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#4581054 - 11/21/17 01:26 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Linctex]
hallstevenson Offline


Registered: 04/25/17
Posts: 179
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Can you provide factual evidence that backs up this thought?


The OLM in 13-16 Fusions (certainly applicable in other models as well - this is just the one I know of) will go down to 0% at 12 months no matter the mileage.

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#4581059 - 11/21/17 01:29 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: PimTac]
Jeffs2006EvoIX Offline


Registered: 02/28/10
Posts: 1623
Loc: Imperial Valley, California
Originally Posted By: PimTac
That Mazda will have the Idemitsu Mazda Moly oil from Japan. I wouldn’t change it.

Great car.


Is this a "special oil" or something? Many oils have Moly in them, so what makes this one so unique? Its like Toyota and their 0w20 its made by M1 but the additve pack is slightly different. Is it that much different vs M1 0w20 for the money? Will it make a difference in the longevity of the engine? I doubt it.

I am curious about this oil brand and if it is any better than most synthetics available?


Jeff
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#4581062 - 11/21/17 01:32 PM Re: Year old oil in new car [Re: Indydriver]
ARCOgraphite Offline


Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 11846
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
They want you in the dealership, That's all.

If the oil has reserve tBN then you are good to go - clean liquid paraffins are inherently non-toxic, low reactivity.

Unless it was two mile one way trips 4x week in -20C weather in such situations you should be riding a two-stroke snowmobile or electric quadrunner. That engine will die young no matter what you do smile

I found that the OE fill is likely the best quality oil and filter I will ever have in the car.


Edited by ARCOgraphite (11/21/17 01:35 PM)
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