Recent Topics
Another car purchase idea
by Kurtatron. 10/22/18 07:59 PM
Texaco and AAP Coolant?
by maverickfhs. 10/22/18 07:46 PM
Oil plug nylon washer vs crush washer
by Oildudeny. 10/22/18 07:46 PM
Highlander
by daleferd. 10/22/18 07:39 PM
When renting a vehicle...
by Vern_in_IL. 10/22/18 07:18 PM
Valvoline zddp content 10w-30
by dogememe. 10/22/18 07:14 PM
2013 Toyota Highlander
by millerbl00. 10/22/18 06:55 PM
PVC water supply line vs copper
by PandaBear. 10/22/18 06:30 PM
3/8 torque wrench
by rtrdad. 10/22/18 05:20 PM
Lucas 85w-140 Rear Diff Whirling
by Rocketman777. 10/22/18 05:18 PM
2 cycle Toro giving me trouble
by HawkeyeScott. 10/22/18 04:45 PM
PREMIUM GUARD UPG64R CUT OPEN
by 53' Stude. 10/22/18 04:36 PM
Light scratches/Water Spots
by Nick1994. 10/22/18 04:06 PM
Meijer Castrol Clearance $5.34 jug
by Spartanfool. 10/22/18 03:42 PM
when/if to change trans fluid? miles or years?
by columnshift. 10/22/18 03:34 PM
How long to run M1 EP 5w30 in Fuel Diluter
by Speak2Mountain. 10/22/18 03:08 PM
What Car is more comfortable?
by starboy123. 10/22/18 02:24 PM
Newest Members
Rocketman777, BillPf, matt2636, zaRin, Maciejew
66265 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
119 registered members (Ablebody, ammolab, 2004tdigls, ABomb369, alcyon, 53' Stude, 8 invisible), 1,824 guests, and 30 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics292,382
Posts4,878,565
Members66,265
Most Online2,494
Oct 17th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Replacing my tires on my one day old new car #4580370
11/20/17 07:54 PM
11/20/17 07:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,548
WA
Finklejag Offline OP
Finklejag  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,548
WA
I just bought a 2018 Subaru Outback yesterday and stopped by Discount Tire and and ordered some Nokian WRG3 SUV's to replace the [censored] OEM Bridgestone Dueler HT Sport AS's. Most of the 225/65/17 are highway touring type tires with a UTQG of 700. I wanted to put an AT tire on the Outback but they weigh 7-9 pounds heavier then the OEM Bridgestones per tire. The Nokian weigh only 25 pounds and are the lightest I reviewed.

The new tires will sent me back $400 after the $100 rebate card I will receive. They gave me a $140 credit for the OEM ones. Even the guy said those Bridgestones are terrible.


Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580381
11/20/17 08:00 PM
11/20/17 08:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 911
California
Kool1 Offline
Kool1  Offline
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 911
California
In general, I've found Bridgestone tires to be noisy and fast wearing. I wanted to replace the original Bridgestones when I purchased my 2003 Honda CRV new. I just couldn't pull the trigger as the tires were brand new. I endured the noisy Bridgestones for about 20,000 miles and then decided it was time to ditch the Bridgestones for some Michelins. The noisy roar at freeway speeds finally disappeared.

Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580384
11/20/17 08:02 PM
11/20/17 08:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,112
Lyndhurst NJ
Audios Online content
Audios  Online Content
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,112
Lyndhurst NJ
What about buying a set of steelies for the winters and then going with a dedicated summer on the OEM wheels? It actually works out to be cheaper after 2 seasons, as opposed to the price for each dismount and mount that these tires will go through on the OE wheels.


2002 VW Golf TDI-Mobil 1 5/40 TDT
2007 Mercedes GL320 CDI Fuchs 5/40 GT Pro XTL
2005 BMW M3 BMW Twin Power 10/60
2003 BMW M5-Fuchs 5/40
1998 BMW M3/4/5 Fuchs 5/40
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580413
11/20/17 08:18 PM
11/20/17 08:18 PM
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,915
Virginia Beach
Astro14 Offline
Astro14  Offline
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,915
Virginia Beach
If it makes you feel better, I replaced the Bridgestone tires on my Tundra with the Nokian WRG3. The Bridgestones were smooth and quiet, but not very good in snow when I had the truck in Colorado.

Just a touch of snow on my last trip to Vermont, so not enough experience to tell how the Nokians perform in the snow, but glad I had Nokians on the truck instead of the Bridgestones...


32 Packard 15W40
02 Volvo V70 T5 0W40 M1
02 Volvo V70 XC 0W40 Edge
05 MB S600 0W40 M1
16 Tundra 1794 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580426
11/20/17 08:31 PM
11/20/17 08:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
HondaBroMike Offline
HondaBroMike  Offline
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
Originally Posted By: Finklejag
I just bought a 2018 Subaru Outback yesterday and stopped by Discount Tire and and ordered some Nokian WRG3 SUV's to replace the [censored] OEM Bridgestone Dueler HT Sport AS's.


Did you work the tire issue as a bargaining chip?

Last edited by HondaBroMike; 11/20/17 08:33 PM.


Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580452
11/20/17 08:59 PM
11/20/17 08:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,289
New England
Virtus_Probi Offline
Virtus_Probi  Offline
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,289
New England
We did something similar with my daughter's Impreza, replaced whatever weak rubber came on it with T rated RT43s. The indy tire shop we used consigned the OEM tires for us and we made $125 or whatever. I was OK with putting quality all seasons on her car and not buying winter tires for it because she is a student and won't have class during storms.
My Forester had some kind of Dueler (225/55/18) on it for OEM and the things were awful in a mere 2" of snow, I was already planning to get snows but was amazed to find those "all seasons" were helpless in barely more than a dusting of snow. I wore those pieces of junk out in under 20kmiles as summer tires and then bought some Eagle Sport AS tires that have been pretty fun and also give me coverage in case of a surprise fall or spring snowstorm.


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580473
11/20/17 09:22 PM
11/20/17 09:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,029
USA
slacktide_bitog Offline
slacktide_bitog  Offline
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,029
USA
A few other people on here said Bridgestone's tires are heavy. And of course, remember that almost all OE tires are garbage, designed just to be cheap and help with CAFE targets.

Good luck with the Nokians. I hope you get many enjoyable miles out of them smile

Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Audios] #4580492
11/20/17 09:38 PM
11/20/17 09:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,548
WA
Finklejag Offline OP
Finklejag  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,548
WA
Originally Posted By: Audios
What about buying a set of steelies for the winters and then going with a dedicated summer on the OEM wheels? It actually works out to be cheaper after 2 seasons, as opposed to the price for each dismount and mount that these tires will go through on the OE wheels.


The WRG's are a four season tire. They have a UTQG of 600 and a 55,000 mile warranty.

Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4580509
11/20/17 09:53 PM
11/20/17 09:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,553
Central Maryland
HangFire Online content
HangFire  Online Content
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,553
Central Maryland
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
A few other people on here said Bridgestone's tires are heavy. And of course, remember that almost all OE tires are garbage, designed just to be cheap and help with CAFE targets

Hmm. Heavy tires don't help meet CAFE targets.


Various musings: http://hangfire.net
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580540
11/20/17 10:16 PM
11/20/17 10:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,996
The Canyons
02SE Offline
02SE  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,996
The Canyons
Smart choice.

I've replaced tires on brand new vehicles numerous times. The most recent I had the tires replaced, before I took delivery.

Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580552
11/20/17 10:29 PM
11/20/17 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 20,834
Upstate NY
Donald Offline
Donald  Offline
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 20,834
Upstate NY
I would have run the tires until they needed replacement.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Donald] #4580554
11/20/17 10:32 PM
11/20/17 10:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,221
Where the wind comes sweepin'
Reddy45 Offline
Reddy45  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,221
Where the wind comes sweepin'
Originally Posted By: Donald
I would have run the tires until they needed replacement.


Ditto. An AWD Subaru can probably get quite far in winter even on bad tires.

Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580590
11/20/17 11:09 PM
11/20/17 11:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 10,894
Phoenix, AZ
Nick1994 Offline
Nick1994  Offline
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 10,894
Phoenix, AZ
You kept the brand new tires that came off to sell on Craigslist right? Probably could get $350-$400 for them.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 86k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580604
11/20/17 11:37 PM
11/20/17 11:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,216
Ontario, Canada
IndyIan Offline
IndyIan  Offline
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,216
Ontario, Canada
I think the Nokian Rotiiva AT's aren't really much heavier than the typical all season. I put multimile wild country xtx's on the CRV and they were only a couple pounds heavier than an all season but they wore pretty quickly and cupped even with rotations, so I won't recommend them, unless you drive off pavement most of the time.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 218km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 15km 0W20
Re: Replacing my tires on my one day old new car [Re: Finklejag] #4580605
11/20/17 11:42 PM
11/20/17 11:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 3,888
New England
madRiver Offline
madRiver  Offline
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 3,888
New England
Be very aware that these Nokian winter biased all seasons turn real noisy with neglect in rotations or alignment issues.

I have various versions over last 15 years.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™