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#4579987 - 11/20/17 11:15 AM Pick My Gear Oil
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
Posts: 307
Loc: NC
The Frontier is coming up on 20,000 and I'm going to change out all of the driveline fluids just to get all the break-in "goodies" out. I'm sticking with Nissan Matic-S for the trans and Matic-D for the t-case per the recommendations in the owner's manual (I don't know why I can't use Matic-S in both, but I'll go with what they recommend).

For the rear diff, Nissan wants a 75w-90 GL-5 synthetic. For the front diff, they want a 80w-90 GL-5 non synthetic. (Again, I have no idea why I couldn't use 75w-90 in both) I'd like to change them now and not worry about them until ~100k or so. I know there's no "best", but would any of you have a recommended brand? I read a lot of good things about Amsoil's gear lubes. I don't care to pay Amsoil's prices if it's something I can change now and not think of for a long time. Amsoil says to leave it in 100k or the manufacturer's recommendation, whichever is longer. Would Mobil 1, Valvoline, etc... be just as good? Should I actually run a non-synthetic lube in the front diff since the manual specifically says "non-synthetic" or are they just emphasizing an 80w-90?

Sorry for all the questions. As you can see in my sig, diff lube is not something I deal with much.
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#4579995 - 11/20/17 11:20 AM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
Alex_V Offline


Registered: 04/10/16
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Loc: Campbellsville, KY
Here's a vote for Ams Severe Gear 75-90. M1 or Valvoline syn shouldn't let you down by a long shot, either (I dare say both are better than the FF) but my opinion is Amsoil rises above either.
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#4580064 - 11/20/17 12:35 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
Fsharp Offline


Registered: 12/11/15
Posts: 410
Loc: Kentucky
I donít know if the front hubs unlock, but if they do and the front differential isnít spinning maybe they want non-synthetic in the front because it clings to the gears better than some PAO based synthetic might. A synthetic would most likely be fine I like Redlineís gear and transmission oils best.

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#4580068 - 11/20/17 12:43 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
slug_bug Offline


Registered: 01/08/13
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Loc: Michigan
+1 on the Red Line 75w90 GL-5 gear oil
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#4580151 - 11/20/17 02:44 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
Donald Offline


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Amsoil SVG.
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#4580153 - 11/20/17 02:54 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
Donald Offline


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Amsoil SVG.
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#4580223 - 11/20/17 04:17 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
Rat407 Offline


Registered: 12/13/02
Posts: 1431
Loc: North Carolina
Why not just go with Nissan's gear oil? One stop shop and done. There are tons of vehicles out there that the gear oil never gets changed and they last for several 100's thousand miles.
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#4580442 - 11/20/17 07:50 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Donald]
MaximaGuy Offline


Registered: 09/20/03
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Loc: Austin, TX
Originally Posted By: Donald
Amsoil SVG.


+1, you never go wrong with Amsoil....
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#4580734 - 11/21/17 06:58 AM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Donald]
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Registered: 09/26/10
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Amsoil SVG.
Another vote for Amsoil SVG. You may want to consider 75W-110 which has the viscosity that 75W-90 had before the J306 tables were updated.
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#4580783 - 11/21/17 08:01 AM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Rat407]
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
Posts: 307
Loc: NC
Originally Posted By: Rat407
Why not just go with Nissan's gear oil? One stop shop and done. There are tons of vehicles out there that the gear oil never gets changed and they last for several 100's thousand miles.


Because they want ~$15 a quart for the "genuine" stuff and if I'm going to pay that, I would like some added "warm and fuzzies" of a well regarded synthetic to go with it. I'm sure the Nissan stuff is just fine though. And yeah, I could never change it, but I am a member here so... LOL

The local dealer quoted me $10.75/qt for a case of Matic-S. I found it on Amazon for $8.33 with free shipping. banana The only thing I plan on buying at the dealer is the Matic-D for the t-case since I only need 3 quarts.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the suggestions. If I can source it fairly easily, I'd like to go with Amsoil. If for no other reason than just to run Amsoil in something.


Edited by fenixguy (11/21/17 08:02 AM)
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#4581519 - 11/21/17 11:31 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
JoeJ Offline


Registered: 05/09/14
Posts: 28
Loc: New York
Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?
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#4581523 - 11/21/17 11:36 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
JoeJ Offline


Registered: 05/09/14
Posts: 28
Loc: New York
Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?
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#4581551 - 11/22/17 01:22 AM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: JoeJ]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6390
Loc: Texas
Not a big fan Ö Amsoil is buying materials from majors and blends them into a good final product ~ but the dealer part, price, and the Amsoil approach to builder approvals keeps me away Ö

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#4581617 - 11/22/17 06:03 AM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: JoeJ]
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Registered: 09/26/10
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Originally Posted By: JoeJ
Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?
I cannot speak for others, but for me, it is not a dealer thing, it is a great gear oil. I have actually used it and had a good experience whereas some bash it without ever having used it.
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#4584586 - 11/25/17 02:25 PM Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy]
kram5 Offline


Registered: 10/27/15
Posts: 1
Loc: Canada
I have a 2005 f150 4x4 with amsoil through out the drive train for 460000 kms of the 513000 that are on the vehicle. No issues at all, and still going strong.

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