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Pick My Gear Oil #4579987
11/20/17 12:15 PM
11/20/17 12:15 PM
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fenixguy Offline OP
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The Frontier is coming up on 20,000 and I'm going to change out all of the driveline fluids just to get all the break-in "goodies" out. I'm sticking with Nissan Matic-S for the trans and Matic-D for the t-case per the recommendations in the owner's manual (I don't know why I can't use Matic-S in both, but I'll go with what they recommend).

For the rear diff, Nissan wants a 75w-90 GL-5 synthetic. For the front diff, they want a 80w-90 GL-5 non synthetic. (Again, I have no idea why I couldn't use 75w-90 in both) I'd like to change them now and not worry about them until ~100k or so. I know there's no "best", but would any of you have a recommended brand? I read a lot of good things about Amsoil's gear lubes. I don't care to pay Amsoil's prices if it's something I can change now and not think of for a long time. Amsoil says to leave it in 100k or the manufacturer's recommendation, whichever is longer. Would Mobil 1, Valvoline, etc... be just as good? Should I actually run a non-synthetic lube in the front diff since the manual specifically says "non-synthetic" or are they just emphasizing an 80w-90?

Sorry for all the questions. As you can see in my sig, diff lube is not something I deal with much.


'16 Frontier SV 4x4-PP/Nissan OEM
'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
'01 Civic EX-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram UG
'00 Civic LX-PYB/Fram UG
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4579995
11/20/17 12:20 PM
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Here's a vote for Ams Severe Gear 75-90. M1 or Valvoline syn shouldn't let you down by a long shot, either (I dare say both are better than the FF) but my opinion is Amsoil rises above either.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4580064
11/20/17 01:35 PM
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I don’t know if the front hubs unlock, but if they do and the front differential isn’t spinning maybe they want non-synthetic in the front because it clings to the gears better than some PAO based synthetic might. A synthetic would most likely be fine I like Redline’s gear and transmission oils best.

Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4580068
11/20/17 01:43 PM
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+1 on the Red Line 75w90 GL-5 gear oil


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Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4580151
11/20/17 03:44 PM
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Donald Offline
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Amsoil SVG.


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Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4580153
11/20/17 03:54 PM
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Donald Offline
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Amsoil SVG.


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Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4580223
11/20/17 05:17 PM
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Why not just go with Nissan's gear oil? One stop shop and done. There are tons of vehicles out there that the gear oil never gets changed and they last for several 100's thousand miles.


2002 Silverado 5.3 0w-20 AMSOIL®
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Donald] #4580442
11/20/17 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Amsoil SVG.


+1, you never go wrong with Amsoil....


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Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Donald] #4580734
11/21/17 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Amsoil SVG.
Another vote for Amsoil SVG. You may want to consider 75W-110 which has the viscosity that 75W-90 had before the J306 tables were updated.


2018 Mercedes Benz AMG GLC43 3.0L Bi-Turbo [Castrol Edge 0W-40 & Pur filter]
2018 Mercedes Benz C300 2.0L Turbo [Pennzoil Platinum 0W-40 & Mann filter]
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: Rat407] #4580783
11/21/17 09:01 AM
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fenixguy Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Rat407
Why not just go with Nissan's gear oil? One stop shop and done. There are tons of vehicles out there that the gear oil never gets changed and they last for several 100's thousand miles.


Because they want ~$15 a quart for the "genuine" stuff and if I'm going to pay that, I would like some added "warm and fuzzies" of a well regarded synthetic to go with it. I'm sure the Nissan stuff is just fine though. And yeah, I could never change it, but I am a member here so... LOL

The local dealer quoted me $10.75/qt for a case of Matic-S. I found it on Amazon for $8.33 with free shipping. banana The only thing I plan on buying at the dealer is the Matic-D for the t-case since I only need 3 quarts.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the suggestions. If I can source it fairly easily, I'd like to go with Amsoil. If for no other reason than just to run Amsoil in something.

Last edited by fenixguy; 11/21/17 09:02 AM.

'16 Frontier SV 4x4-PP/Nissan OEM
'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
'01 Civic EX-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram UG
'00 Civic LX-PYB/Fram UG
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4581519
11/22/17 12:31 AM
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Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?


Joe
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4581523
11/22/17 12:36 AM
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Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?


Joe
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: JoeJ] #4581551
11/22/17 02:22 AM
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Not a big fan … Amsoil is buying materials from majors and blends them into a good final product ~ but the dealer part, price, and the Amsoil approach to builder approvals keeps me away …

Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: JoeJ] #4581617
11/22/17 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: JoeJ
Why do people recommend Amsoil here so much? Is it a dealer thing?
I cannot speak for others, but for me, it is not a dealer thing, it is a great gear oil. I have actually used it and had a good experience whereas some bash it without ever having used it.


2018 Mercedes Benz AMG GLC43 3.0L Bi-Turbo [Castrol Edge 0W-40 & Pur filter]
2018 Mercedes Benz C300 2.0L Turbo [Pennzoil Platinum 0W-40 & Mann filter]
Re: Pick My Gear Oil [Re: fenixguy] #4584586
11/25/17 03:25 PM
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I have a 2005 f150 4x4 with amsoil through out the drive train for 460000 kms of the 513000 that are on the vehicle. No issues at all, and still going strong.

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