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New Idemitsu Products #4579673
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http://www.aapexshow.com/2017/Public/eBooth.aspx?BoothID=198196&Task=Products&ProdID=4482

Looks like they are coming out with two different 0W20s, a 0W16 and a new Honda ATF-DW1 substitute.


2011 Toyota Prius 1.8L - 185K - SuperTech Dexos Full Syn 0W-20
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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: The Critic] #4579741
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Innovative products, I like the moly loaded one in particular. Competitors will have to up their game to match these offerings.



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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: The Critic] #4579834
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The Zepro Advanced Moly oil has a KV40 of 36.3. That is really down there for a 20wt.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1IrfMIh+tS.pdf


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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: PimTac] #4579846
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Why worry about a temp the oil only sees in passing on warm up and cool down? The 100C temp of 8.3 compares to M1 at 8.7, not a big difference in my NSHO. I would buy and use Idemitsu oil without reservation.

I find it most interesting that Idem recommends this 0W-20 for ALL SN requirements, apparently without respect to manufacturer’s oil weight specs.

Last edited by Indydriver; 11/20/17 09:40 AM.

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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: Indydriver] #4579849
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Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Why worry about a temp the oil only sees in passing on warm up and cool down? The 100C temp of 8.3 compares to M1 at 8.7, not a big difference in my NSHO. I would buy and use Idemitsu oil without reservation.

I find it most interesting that Idem recommends this 0W-20 for ALL SN requirements, apparently without respect to manufacturer’s oil weight specs.




Who is worrying?


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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: PimTac] #4579897
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Why worry about a temp the oil only sees in passing on warm up and cool down? The 100C temp of 8.3 compares to M1 at 8.7, not a big difference in my NSHO. I would buy and use Idemitsu oil without reservation.

I find it most interesting that Idem recommends this 0W-20 for ALL SN requirements, apparently without respect to manufacturer’s oil weight specs.




Who is worrying?


Unicorn brew for me since I am not in ultra-snow-belt arenas. I got 38 bottles of the goo on markdown fam.



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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: The Critic] #4579927
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From what I am seeing, the Zepro with Advanced Moly is not d1g2 approved. The regular Zepro Eco Medalist is. Something to consider if the gen2 spec is important to you.


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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: The Critic] #4580019
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What is so attractive about the boutique oils? Pennzoil or Mobil, that's all you need

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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
What is so attractive about the boutique oils? Pennzoil or Mobil, that's all you need


For professional installers, Idemitsu products are a lot cheaper than Mobil or Pennzoil when purchased from wholesalers like WorldPac or IMC.


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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: The Critic] #4580716
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Boutique? Isn't Idemitsu the factory fill for Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, and Mitsubishi?



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Re: New Idemitsu Products [Re: LoneRanger] #4581361
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Competitors will have to up their game to match these offerings.

If you can't find them on the shelf, there isn't much competition, unfortunately. Shell has more internal competition in North America than Idemitsu brings them.

As for factory fill for Nissan, I'm not so sure how that's going. Castrol has been pushing, and I'm not sure how it's turned out yet, to be service and factory fill across the entire Renault Group.


Plain, simple Garak.

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