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#4579289 - 11/19/17 05:47 PM Dowsing Rods?
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
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Loc: USA
Anyone have any personal experiences with dowsing working to locate items underground? I know it's considered kooky stuff, but I've seen people swear it works.

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#4579294 - 11/19/17 05:50 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
otis24 Offline


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I was able to perform dowsing in my youth. My dad was very adept at it. I have seen it work. Both of our wells were dug using dowsing, or "witching" as we called it.
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#4579298 - 11/19/17 05:57 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
TinyVoices Offline


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Always wondered if this was 100% balogna or if there is some science behind it. Obviously the 'spirit world, ghost aspect' is not what I'm discussing as I believe it's anything but reality, but is there some practical use like locating items underground or such backed by real science?
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#4579303 - 11/19/17 06:01 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
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I think it depends on the person. I tried to find a water shut off valve in our parking lot but had no luck. The lady from the water company got out her bent wires,told us where to dig and was correct.

They also did it when they drilled my well and that worked.
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#4579307 - 11/19/17 06:03 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Chris142]
TinyVoices Offline


Registered: 09/12/16
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Loc: Vienna, VA
Originally Posted By: Chris142
I think it depends on the person. I tried to find a water shut off valve in our parking lot but had no luck. The lady from the water company got out her bent wires,told us where to dig and was correct.

They also did it when they drilled my well and that worked.


So what's the science behind this?
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#4579337 - 11/19/17 06:20 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
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I've done it a couple times and it worked.
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#4579352 - 11/19/17 06:31 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
Al Offline


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No science behind it. I used to work as a well driller helper. I did not see any difference either way.
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#4579354 - 11/19/17 06:33 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
StevieC Offline


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The guy that found us a new well on my dad's property used one and it found water, this is after they drilled in multiple locations around the property and found nothing.

I don't know, I think it works but it seems like "magic" to me.
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#4579355 - 11/19/17 06:34 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Al]
TinyVoices Offline


Registered: 09/12/16
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Loc: Vienna, VA
Originally Posted By: Al
No science behind it. I used to work as a well driller helper. I did not see any difference either way.


yeah a quick Google seems to suggest there is no tangible science behind it. I tend to agree.
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#4579364 - 11/19/17 06:47 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
d00df00d Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
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Loc: PA
100% bunk.

Of course there are people who have found water. That's exactly what you'd expect by blind chance. And if you're one of those people, or if you know one of those people, you can't be blamed for thinking there's something to it. But every time it's actually tested, it turns out to be no more successful than just rolling the dice.
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#4579378 - 11/19/17 06:57 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: d00df00d]
Dallas69 Offline


Registered: 02/11/14
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Loc: Texas
I have seen it work with my own eyes.
I think it has something to do with the magnetic force of round metal objects.
In my case it was correct in locating a casket buried in an unmarked grave.
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#4579402 - 11/19/17 07:24 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: d00df00d]
AZjeff Offline


Registered: 01/14/11
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Loc: PV Az
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
100% bunk.


Sorry, wrong. I've been able to locate pipes & wires underground for years. 2 months ago found the sewer line between the house and septic tank. 2 pieces of stiff wire bent in an L shape, 24" on one side, 6" for the handles. When I cross over the pipe/wire the wires cross. They cross with my eyes closed. Can't explain it, don't know how/why it works. Saw it done years ago and tried it. I don't claim to know how deep or what's down there if I don't know, but it works.

My wife works for the gas company, when the locating device can't find the pipe some of the men will get out their wires (unofficially) and locate the pipe.

I can't speak for finding a water course underground for a well but that wasn't the OP's question.
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#4579445 - 11/19/17 08:06 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: d00df00d]
TinyVoices Offline


Registered: 09/12/16
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Loc: Vienna, VA
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
100% bunk.

Of course there are people who have found water. That's exactly what you'd expect by blind chance. And if you're one of those people, or if you know one of those people, you can't be blamed for thinking there's something to it. But every time it's actually tested, it turns out to be no more successful than just rolling the dice.


Yeah I agree. No science behind it, it seems. I don't believe in anything you can't prove with science regardless of who saw or heard something so I'll agree and call it bunk.
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#4579463 - 11/19/17 08:23 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: TinyVoices]
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Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
100% bunk.

Of course there are people who have found water. That's exactly what you'd expect by blind chance. And if you're one of those people, or if you know one of those people, you can't be blamed for thinking there's something to it. But every time it's actually tested, it turns out to be no more successful than just rolling the dice.


Yeah I agree. No science behind it, it seems. I don't believe in anything you can't prove with science regardless of who saw or heard something so I'll agree and call it bunk.


What if the methods to validate it scientifically are not yet known to humans?

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#4579485 - 11/19/17 08:39 PM Re: Dowsing Rods? [Re: Reddy45]
Wolf359 Offline


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4774
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
100% bunk.

Of course there are people who have found water. That's exactly what you'd expect by blind chance. And if you're one of those people, or if you know one of those people, you can't be blamed for thinking there's something to it. But every time it's actually tested, it turns out to be no more successful than just rolling the dice.


Yeah I agree. No science behind it, it seems. I don't believe in anything you can't prove with science regardless of who saw or heard something so I'll agree and call it bunk.


What if the methods to validate it scientifically are not yet known to humans?


The methods to validate are already there. Controlled, repeated studies. Just doesn't happen. Like the butt dyno, people always claim improvements but it turns out it's their own bias. I remember the bit where Andy Rooney tried all those gas improvement formulas and said the only real problem with them was that they improved his mileage so much that he has to stop ever few miles and drain out all the extra gas it was producing as it was over 100%.

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