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Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? #4578806
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My question is this: Who manufactures the motor oil that American Honda puts in their new Accords at the Anna, Ohio engine plant?

I am aware that "Phillips 66 Lubricants has signed an agreement to continue manufacturing and supplying service-fill lubricants for the American Honda Motor Co. Inc. (AHM) through 2019. As a result of the agreement, Phillips 66 Lubricants will remain the exclusive provider for most Honda- and Acura-branded engine oil, lubricants and other vital fluids to dealers throughout the U.S."

I also know that Exxon/Mobil had the AHM contract prior to Phillips 66 receiving it in the fall of 2010.

I think the verbiage that confuses me is "continue manufacturing and supplying service-fill lubricants" and "exclusive provider for most Honda- and Acura-branded engine oil, lubricants and other vital fluids to dealers throughout the U.S."

Does Phillip 66 Lubricants provide the motor oil that AHM uses on the assembly line?

Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4578810
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Im sure whoever the supplier they have a contract with on that particular day is who's oil is in that engine at that current time of assembly.



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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4578824
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What the factory uses and what the dealers use are probably two different things. Living in central Ohio close not to far from the Marysville plant, I have seen a Fuchs tanker truck a few times in the area. Probably meaningless as I'm guessing the plant gets a rail tanker of oil. I bet the engines are shipped dry to the Marysville plant and filled with all required fluids during assembly.



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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4578874
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I would guess it is the Honda oil made by ConocoPhillips. Different regions have different contracts.


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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4578878
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I would be surprised if the engines are filled here in the US and being shipped in from Japan. BMW ships their engines over filled with oil already. I think they cold and hot test many at the engine plants. I believe they currently come with Fuchs in the crankcase, 0W-20 and 0W-30.

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Originally Posted By: bmwtechguy
I would be surprised if the engines are filled here in the US and being shipped in from Japan. BMW ships their engines over filled with oil already. I think they cold and hot test many at the engine plants. I believe they currently come with Fuchs in the crankcase, 0W-20 and 0W-30.


The engines used in Accords are manufactured just down the road in Anna, Ohio. From Honda's website: "Our Anna Engine Plant produces turbo, four cylinder and V-6 Earth Dreams Technology™ engines, as well as Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) pulleys".

Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4578979
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One thing about the FF oil is it comes with over 500 PPM of moly and high Viscosity Index. I wonder if that brew and swill an swig is made by CP or Idemitsu, the previous OEM for Honda. Also, what about the Swindon plant in the U.K. What kinda swig they got there for FF? (You know it has the moly but still...details please..)

Conoco Phillips hence the 66 trucks. Case solved. Now the Swindon plant in the U.K., where they make the mighty hatches and Type Rs!, what do they use..prolly same swig and chug.

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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: PimTac] #4578980
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would guess it is the Honda oil made by ConocoPhillips. Different regions have different contracts.

But isn't it supposed to be Honda's special pixie dust factory fill? wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: Garak] #4579098
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would guess it is the Honda oil made by ConocoPhillips. Different regions have different contracts.

But isn't it supposed to be Honda's special pixie dust factory fill? wink




You might think that but as we know with the almighty TGMO, it just ain’t the same anymore.


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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: HondaBroMike] #4579101
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Originally Posted By: HondaBroMike
One thing about the FF oil is it comes with over 500 PPM of moly and high Viscosity Index. I wonder if that brew and swill an swig is made by CP or Idemitsu, the previous OEM for Honda. Also, what about the Swindon plant in the U.K. What kinda swig they got there for FF? (You know it has the moly but still...details please..)

Conoco Phillips hence the 66 trucks. Case solved. Now the Swindon plant in the U.K., where they make the mighty hatches and Type Rs!, what do they use..prolly same swig and chug.




Idemitsu makes the Honda oil for the JDM. Everyone else gets whoever wins the contracts.


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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: Garak] #4579320
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would guess it is the Honda oil made by ConocoPhillips. Different regions have different contracts.

But isn't it supposed to be Honda's special pixie dust factory fill? wink


It’s actually the moly modified greases and sealants used in engine assembly not the oil that special in the factory fill that they like you to do break in with. It’s been posted by Honda techs here many times.


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Agreed, but it always makes for a nice story. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4579931
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I sent an email to Philipps 66 Lubricants asking if they provided factory fill for Honda. The plot thickens! Here is the response I just received:

Thank you for contacting Phillips 66 technical services.  Unfortunately we cannot confirm or deny the use of our products in Honda factory fill applications.  You will need to contact Honda directly for more information on what products they use.
 
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
 
Thank you!
Jake Finn
Lubricants Technical Services – Product Specialist
877.445.9198 



Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: cookieman214] #4580021
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Can you explain why it would matter who it is? Even if you knew, what would you do with that information? Many manufacturers and blenders make many brands of oil.


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Re: Who makes Honda oil used at the Ohio factory? [Re: kschachn] #4580075
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Can you explain why it would matter who it is? Even if you knew, what would you do with that information? Many manufacturers and blenders make many brands of oil.


It does not matter, and I can't do anything with the information. My life will not change if I find out the answer.

I guess your comments apply to 87.9% of the questions asked and information learned on this forum.

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