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New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee #4577264
11/17/17 04:40 PM
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Elon Musk is already well on the way to revolutionizing the car industry for its inevitable electric future. But late yesterday, Musk revealed how he plans to do the same for the trucking industry with the Tesla Semi.

On stage the Semi looked great, on paper it looks almost unbelievable.

As The Verge reports, the Tesla Semi promises to deliver a 500-mile range on a single charge. To be clear, that's 500 miles driving with 80,000 pounds of cargo loaded in the back. While carrying all that weight the Semi can reach speeds of 65mph up a 5 percent grade climb (diesel trucks only manage 45mph) and the Semi easily out-accelerates a diesel truck regardless of the weight being carried.

Other impressive features Musk divulged included a 400-mile range achieved with only a 30-minute charge. Four independent motors on the rear axles allow Tesla to make it impossible for the Semi to jackknife. It also means you'll never have to change the brake pads, as most of the kinetic braking energy gets fed back into the battery rather than wearing the pads down. ....

Another thing that never needs changing is the windshield, as the glass is so strong it can withstand a thermo-nuclear explosion blast. Other safety features include automatic emergency braking, automatic lane keeping, and a forward-collision warning system.

What Tesla promises with the Semi is a truck that's simply more economical, reliable, safer, faster, and environmentally friendly compared to diesel trucks. The reliability is backed up by a million-mile drivetrain guarantee, it says.

As for economics, Musk broke it down to a cost per mile. Simply put, a diesel truck costs $1.51 per mile travelled taking into account the total cost of operation. The Tesla Semi only costs $1.26 per mile, and that's carrying 80,000 pounds and travelling at an average speed of 60mph.

The Tesla Semi can be ordered now with production beginning in 2019. Reservations require a $5,000 deposit and Bloomberg reports grocery chain Meijer Inc. was first out of the blocks, reserving four Semi trucks to add to its fleet. Final pricing has yet to be revealed.

Also last night, Musk revealed a brand new high-tech car: a revamped Tesla Roadster he brought on stage in the back of a Semi.



https://www.pcmag.com/news/357443/tesla-semi-truck-500-mile-range-1-million-mile-guarantee




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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577268
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This was mentioned in the roadster thread. Would be interesting to see the details on the battery, as to deliver on the above will require a massive increase in capacity (and weight), which in turn will pose a much larger obstacle for charging.


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577271
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My thoughts exactly.

I hadn't read the roadster thread. thumbsup


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: OVERKILL] #4577277
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Guess LNG trucks are now less viable when exporting much of the the NG Ö


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577290
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Conventional trucks canít climb a 5% grade at anything more than 45mph????


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577295
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Here's the tractive effort curves from Cummins...
https://cumminsengines.com/uploads/docs/cummins_secrets_of_better_fuel_economy.pdf



Given the close coupled electric motors, say 200hp for a first approximation...150KW makes the math easier.

500 miles at 60 miles per hour is 8.3 hours...1.25MWh of storage...

Six of these...mira alto substation has nearly 400 of these cubicles at 210KWh each...

Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577300
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The other problem I see is that Trucks are already being stolen for the large values being hauled around and now they will be stolen for their batteries etc.


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577309
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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577310
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The end is now clearly in sight.
Tesla is an unlikely acquisition candidate since there is the huge problem of the many Model 3 orders for which prospective buyers have placed cash deposits for a car that Tesla has thus far been unable to produce in commercial volumes.
Tesla must either do the hard work needed to bring the Model 3 to fruition or it will dwindle away.
Unlikely truck concepts and fantasy sports cars are nothing upon which this company should be focusing its attentions when it has real factory floor problems that are urgently in need of resolution.


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: Balrog006] #4577313
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Originally Posted By: Balrog006
Conventional trucks canít climb a 5% grade at anything more than 45mph????


Yeah, not sure what the benchmark for that is shrug I was passed by a tandem log truck going uphill at 75Mph easily with a big old Meow Meow under the hood, and this was the late 90's shrug


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: fdcg27] #4577334
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I said the same thing to a coworker ~ better learn how to crawl - sure not walking or running with affordable (no taxpayers) mass production anything Ö


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577352
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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: StevieC] #4577353
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Walmart announced that it is buying 5 of those to test out.

Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: Warstud] #4577360
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
Walmart announced that it is buying 5 of those to test out.


Problem is that there's nothing to buy.
I doubt that Walmart is going to buy five rather crude computer animations.


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Re: New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee [Re: fdcg27] #4577366
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: Warstud
Walmart announced that it is buying 5 of those to test out.


Problem is that there's nothing to buy.
I doubt that Walmart is going to buy five rather crude computer animations.


Yeah, another sketchy scheme from Tesla.

Unless these rigs are transporting Styrofoam cups and plates, these trucks are just a dream and new Tesla flavor of the month.


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