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Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? #4576717
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Is it unwise to use 5w or 10w30 in a car that calls for 5w20 if it has high mileage like 225k? Honda element 2003 is starting to use a little oil. I have always used synthetic and changed at 5k. My other vehicles call for 5w30.

Last edited by wwillson; 11/17/17 08:03 AM. Reason: subject clarification
Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576725
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I doubt your engine would notice much change especially if synthetic.


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2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576727
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I don't know if it's wise but I don't think it'll hurt in your situation.

Listen for clicking upon statrup....Winter is coming to eastern TN.

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576728
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It is wise.
In my ambients, I would've opted for an xW40.

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576730
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I don't think it will hurt a thing. 5w in your climate is more than adequate. Plus tolerances have loosened up a little over time.


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Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576742
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At 225K and using some oil, I'd use 5w30 in winter and 10w30 in summer. I don't see any problem doing so.


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Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: ZZman] #4576745
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That's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure.

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576746
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Thank you gentlemen.

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576759
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My Honda Fit specs 0w20 but that is to hit the mpg ratings.. I have used 0w30, 5w20, 5w30 with no issue.

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576760
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Originally Posted By: Sealbilly
Is it unwise to use 5w or 10w30 in a car that calls for 5w20 if it has high mileage like 225k? Honda element 2003 is starting to use a little oil. I have always used synthetic and changed at 5k. My other vehicles call for 5w30.

I currently own a 2007 vehicle that is sped'd 5W20 oil. Back in 1997 when this engine was first produced it was spec'd 5W30. The engine was made from 1997-2008 without EVER changing tolerances or clearances.
In 1999-2000 for CAFE reasons ONLY, the manufacturer started to spec 5W20 for said engine to save gas mileage. The previous years' same engines were also back spec'd.
So, no, you don't HAVE TO use 5W20 in an engine spec'd 5W20.
BTW, I'm currently running 5W30 in my engine and sometimes 10W30.


A fox is a wolf who sends flowers!
Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: pbm] #4576763
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Originally Posted By: pbm
At 225K and using some oil, I'd use 5w30 in winter and 10w30 in summer. I don't see any problem doing so.


I'm with him pbm....


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576779
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I would have had it on 5w-30 when it went off warranty!


2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576782
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I'm currently using a 5-30 in the same engine as your Element. This is the first run of it (used 5-20 previously) and there is absolutely no difference in performance, mpg, or noise at startup. I decided to switch it and the '01 Civic to 5-30 so I only have to buy one grade. The current fill in the CR-V is Valvoline Synthetic with Maxlife Technology.


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'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
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Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Kira] #4576797
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Originally Posted By: Kira

Listen for clicking upon statrup....Winter is coming to eastern TN.


I thought he was in Eastern Tunisia

Re: Unwise to use X-30 where 5w-20 is specified? [Re: Sealbilly] #4576810
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I'm running 5w-40 in a 220K mile 5.4 ford.

They really don't care all that much.


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