Recent Topics
How to fix swollen deckwood
by RazorsEdge. 03/18/19 01:52 PM
Which is more important: Oil or Filter?
by RDY4WAR. 03/18/19 01:45 PM
Dishonest car dealership?
by aquariuscsm. 03/18/19 01:21 PM
Phillips 66 Shield Choice $1.99 @ Orscheln
by Pat in Speedway. 03/18/19 12:41 PM
Barely there back seats
by y_p_w. 03/18/19 11:47 AM
should i be afraid of the DCT ?
by WhyMe. 03/18/19 11:28 AM
Friction modifiers
by Truckedup. 03/18/19 10:57 AM
Sometimes, choices are made for you!
by addyguy. 03/18/19 10:30 AM
I Hope This Amuses You Guys Like It Did Me
by NYEngineer. 03/18/19 10:27 AM
New Exmark Lazer Z / Oil ?
by johnD2. 03/18/19 10:13 AM
First welder recommendation
by Astro14. 03/18/19 09:55 AM
Amsoil Burning
by ridgerunner. 03/18/19 09:38 AM
2007 Sonata Pinging + DTCs
by F24Sonata. 03/18/19 09:31 AM
Nissan Maxima 2009 synthetic oil choices
by mahanddeem. 03/18/19 09:23 AM
Best coated rotors
by JMHC. 03/18/19 09:11 AM
Brake Bleeder Question
by maverickfhs. 03/18/19 08:57 AM
Ring alarm system, any good?
by Redright9. 03/18/19 08:18 AM
4 oil changes Saturday.
by ls1mike. 03/18/19 08:08 AM
Newest Members
Indyfordfan, toplscuda, swrve, TomRx, Ozdave
67548 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
101 registered members (aquariuscsm, 1978elcamino, ArrestMeRedZ, 69Torino, 4WD, 94astro, 10 invisible), 2,285 guests, and 62 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics286,018
Posts4,900,861
Members67,548
Most Online2,967
Mar 10th, 2019
Donate to BITOG
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 #4576599
11/16/17 10:44 PM
11/16/17 10:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
HondaBroMike Offline OP
HondaBroMike  Offline OP

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
Anyone getting multiple fails on this...lets discuss this while we wait..

Last edited by HondaBroMike; 11/16/17 10:44 PM.


Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576603
11/16/17 10:46 PM
11/16/17 10:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 24,087
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Offline
StevieC  Offline

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 24,087
ON, Canada eh?
I didn't get multiple fails but it did break a whole bunch of things that then get fixed by rolling it back and then get broken again trying to apply again.

I decided just to install a fresh copy using the Media Creation Tool and a USB drive.

Micro @!#$ at it again.

Last edited by StevieC; 11/16/17 10:47 PM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: StevieC] #4576608
11/16/17 10:57 PM
11/16/17 10:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
HondaBroMike Offline OP
HondaBroMike  Offline OP

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
Microsoft Edge, I don't even use it, it's Chrome to the exclusion of all. What gives? Is this a game changer for Edge in terms of being safer, faster or any more secure?
Without this, who cares about it being more feature-full. Needless to say, I exported my bookmarks to Edge.

Last edited by HondaBroMike; 11/16/17 11:07 PM.


Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576670
11/17/17 02:52 AM
11/17/17 02:52 AM
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 813
Specific Ocean
Kibitoshin Offline
Kibitoshin  Offline

Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 813
Specific Ocean
Every new build that gets released is just a reason for me to do a fresh install. I had the update break certain games so I just hit secure erase and start all over again.


Shin Gekiretsu Shin'ou'hou
01 Toyota Tundra 2WD V8 4.7L
02 Chevy Silverado C1500 V8 5.3L
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576677
11/17/17 03:36 AM
11/17/17 03:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 31,658
NY
demarpaint Offline
demarpaint  Offline

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 31,658
NY
I did a fresh install of it on a tower I recently acquired, fully capable of running Win 10. It's pushing 3 weeks since the install, and I have audio problems. It's a small annoyance, but no matter what I have done to this point I have been unable to resolve it. I'm a bit disappointed, aside from the audio issues I like the OS which is why I've hung in there as long as I have. I have plenty of patience and enjoy problem solving, so I'll give it a little more time, but I have a feeling Linux Cinnamon might be in this machine's near future. shrug


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576862
11/17/17 09:52 AM
11/17/17 09:52 AM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
HondaBroMike Offline OP
HondaBroMike  Offline OP

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 312
here is a site that lists the improvements. So far, the Edge repair is the best but I don't use Edge.

https://www.groovypost.com/news/microsoft-windows-10-fall-creators-update-1709-top-features/



Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576906
11/17/17 10:39 AM
11/17/17 10:39 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 62
Ontario, Canada
AdamZ Offline
AdamZ  Offline

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 62
Ontario, Canada
The controlled folder access to help mitigate ransomeware is nice. I work in IT so we will see if it actually does anything when the time comes.

I upgraded all of my personal systems already, no issues. I've only seen a few systems fail on updates with 10, most of the time it is because of hardware. If you have a logitech mouse/keyboard, unplug the USB dongle, I have seen it make the updates fail and just loop over and over. No idea why though.


94 Nissan Pathfinder 493k km R.I.P.
95 Nissan Pathfinder 200k km
02 Nissan Xterra SC 170k km
04 VW Golf 2.0 245k km
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: AdamZ] #4576936
11/17/17 11:03 AM
11/17/17 11:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,060
Vancouver, Canada
jaj Offline
jaj  Offline

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,060
Vancouver, Canada
Originally Posted By: AdamZ
The controlled folder access to help mitigate ransomeware is nice. I work in IT so we will see if it actually does anything when the time comes...


Thanks for mentioning this feature - I didn't see it (it's buried pretty deep) when it came out, but if it's not turned on, it really should be.

All of my really important files are on Dropbox encrypted with Boxcryptor. My Dropbox account has file history turned on, so even if the files are corrupted, I can just revert to an earlier version. I also do a weekly Veeam backup on a removable 4TB drive and I have a second continuous backup on Azure using Cloudberry. My annual archive is in Glacial storage on AWS.

Am I paranoid? Maybe. But I got hacked twice in 2015/16 and that was enough for me.

Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: Kibitoshin] #4576937
11/17/17 11:04 AM
11/17/17 11:04 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,592
Phoenix
dishdude Offline
dishdude  Offline

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,592
Phoenix
Originally Posted By: Kibitoshin
Every new build that gets released is just a reason for me to do a fresh install. I had the update break certain games so I just hit secure erase and start all over again.


I do the same, doesn't matter if it's my Windows or Linux machine. I can get it done and setup in about 30 minutes.


2018 Challenger SRT 392 PUP 0w-40 Wix 57899XP
2018 GTI
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4576943
11/17/17 11:09 AM
11/17/17 11:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,409
NE,Ohio
Rand Offline
Rand  Offline

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,409
NE,Ohio
I thought it was just me..

not wanting to turn this into a hate microsoft/join linux fest..

I had issues where:
It started downloading while I was playing CS:GO FPS.. lagged me out and frustrated me..
(you cant quit early or you get a playing ban)

Then I was playing it again the next day and it decides to start "preparing for update"
pegging my samsung NVME 950 pro (2GB/SEC) drive at 80-100% useage.. and lagging me again.

In that game hundredths of a second is the difference between getting fragged or killing someone

At no point did it ask me to let it do any of this.. or postpone it to another time.

Later that day it finally pops up the "ready to update" in the corner.

I did the shutdown and update option and went to bed.

Next morning I started it up to get the weather.. and it still had 15min to install.

It then pops up it has another update.. which took another 30-40min total to install(and 4 reboots).

It also keeps installing flashplayer that I dont want on my system as an update.

it installed some Drivers with SVLOADSENSE that were crashing
(I dont use the built in sound have an asus xonar board)

Finally it reset the installation date on all my programs to 11/15/17

What a cluster, I'm not against updates but being forcefed and preupdating without asking is total hogwash.


All that being said I'm happier with firefox 57 update than all the new windows features.


This is all on an intel i7-6700k with 16GB ram and an extremely fast SSD boot drive.

I am getting to the point where I too will start reinstalling the OS to do updates.

I think if you tell it you have metered internet you can avoid being surprised when it downloads 20GB or however much for these updates in the background.
It had my 120mbit/sec connection pegged for a significantly long time... when I can download over 500Mbyte a min.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: Rand] #4576965
11/17/17 11:22 AM
11/17/17 11:22 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,060
Vancouver, Canada
jaj Offline
jaj  Offline

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,060
Vancouver, Canada
Originally Posted By: Rand
...This is all on an intel i7-6700k with 16GB ram and an extremely fast SSD boot drive.

I am getting to the point where I too will start reinstalling the OS to do updates.

I think if you tell it you have metered internet you can avoid being surprised when it downloads 20GB or however much for these updates in the background.
It had my 120mbit/sec connection pegged for a significantly long time... when I can download over 500Mbyte a min.

Wow. That must be enormously frustrating. Is there a hardware issue there somewhere? I built my own computers for decades, and there were always nagging problems with something - the last one just didn't quite get along with USB3, for instance.

Last January I bought a Lenovo P40 workstation with "certification", which means it's guaranteed to work with Windows and Windows apps. It was a revelation. It's been flawless and the term "it just works" applies. And it's no slouch either - 6-core Xeon, 80GB RAM, Quadro display adapter and I treated myself to a Benq 32" 4K monitor.

I also have a fast internet connection - 150mbps up/down on fibre. Nothing bogs even when downloading a big file from a fast server.

For the first time in years of using high-end hardware, I just don't think about the machine. It "just works".

Last edited by jaj; 11/17/17 11:24 AM.
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4577010
11/17/17 12:08 PM
11/17/17 12:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,445
MN
tmorris1 Offline
tmorris1  Offline

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,445
MN
No problems with any of the three machines that I have updated. One newer and 2 older machines.

Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: jaj] #4577021
11/17/17 12:17 PM
11/17/17 12:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,409
NE,Ohio
Rand Offline
Rand  Offline

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,409
NE,Ohio
It updated fine eventually.. just the invis. background stuff haunting me.

I'd rather have a popup that says "start this update now"

Then I can go make dinner or something else... instead of the ninja preupdates while I'm actually using the computer.

The only hardware issue was it installing generic drivers for my motherboard sound.. which I dont use.

If I hadnt been playing counterstrike I probably wouldnt have noticed the preupdating.. but in a game where .2seconds gets you dead it was very noticeable.

geforce 970 video card w/ 165hz gsync monitor.

The HTPC (I3 laptop) updated fine.

These seasonal updates are more like installing/upgrading to a NEW OS.
Pretty sure you could have called the last few windows 11,12,13


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: jaj] #4577061
11/17/17 01:16 PM
11/17/17 01:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 62
Ontario, Canada
AdamZ Offline
AdamZ  Offline

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 62
Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: jaj
Originally Posted By: AdamZ
The controlled folder access to help mitigate ransomeware is nice. I work in IT so we will see if it actually does anything when the time comes...


Thanks for mentioning this feature - I didn't see it (it's buried pretty deep) when it came out, but if it's not turned on, it really should be.

All of my really important files are on Dropbox encrypted with Boxcryptor. My Dropbox account has file history turned on, so even if the files are corrupted, I can just revert to an earlier version. I also do a weekly Veeam backup on a removable 4TB drive and I have a second continuous backup on Azure using Cloudberry. My annual archive is in Glacial storage on AWS.

Am I paranoid? Maybe. But I got hacked twice in 2015/16 and that was enough for me.


Not paranoid at all. I had a client get the cryptolocker virus, it got to the server by the time someone had called me. Luckily they have a Datto appliance and I restored the whole thing within an hour.

At home my "server" runs a daily back up to an external drive, and I have a cloud backup as well. I am running a copy of windows SBS.


94 Nissan Pathfinder 493k km R.I.P.
95 Nissan Pathfinder 200k km
02 Nissan Xterra SC 170k km
04 VW Golf 2.0 245k km
Re: Fall Creators Update aka Update 1709 [Re: HondaBroMike] #4577062
11/17/17 01:16 PM
11/17/17 01:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,788
San Rafael, CA
dogememe Offline
dogememe  Offline

Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,788
San Rafael, CA
No problems with the update here on my three computers:

MSI GE62VR Apache Pro: Intel Core i7-6700HQ, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 240GB SSD + 500GB SSD.
Lenovo Yoga 700-14: Intel Core i5-6200U, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Intel HD Graphics, 240GB SSD.
Lenovo ThinkPad T430: Intel Core i5-3320M, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Intel HD Graphics, 250GB SSD.


2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~94K Miles: Royal Purple 5W-30 + Wix 51348
2008 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~167K Miles: AMSOIL SS 0W-30 + Wix 51372
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30 + ACDelco PF52
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™