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BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage #4575936
11/16/17 11:45 AM
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I'm in the process of deciding on my next car. Some of the cars I have looked at are BMW-s with 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines (X5 and 7 series). I am very familiar with the 3 liter inline 6 engines and their issues but need to know the real life experiences of fellow BITOG-ers about the V8 engines. The ones I'm looking at are 2010+ used vehicles with 70-80k miles on them.

Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4575964
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I would stay away from any German car, post warranty. Especially high end v8 models with high end options. Usually it's the other stuff besides the engine that goes wrong.
Unless you have a big pile of money, and don't mind it becoming a small pile of money.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Danno] #4575976
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Originally Posted By: Danno
I would stay away from any German car, post warranty. Especially high end v8 models with high end options. Usually it's the other stuff besides the engine that goes wrong.
Unless you have a big pile of money, and don't mind it becoming a small pile of money.


I agree 10000%

Buy an Accord or Camry for the same money.

Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4575980
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
I'm in the process of deciding on my next car. Some of the cars I have looked at are BMW-s with 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines (X5 and 7 series). I am very familiar with the 3 liter inline 6 engines and their issues but need to know the real life experiences of fellow BITOG-ers about the V8 engines. The ones I'm looking at are 2010+ used vehicles with 70-80k miles on them.


This did not happen to me so please take it with a grain of salt. Also these may not be the exact same engine as the X5 or 7 Series.

My manager at work has a E90 M3 with a V8. He once had to replace the throttle actuator. Since it's a V there is one actuator on each bank. Then there are a few O2 sensors here and there. The engine also burns a bit of oil between OCI so he has to top it up, how often I have no idea.

A friend of mine also has the same car, he actually went to the States, bought the car and towed it back to Canada. Anyway, he just replaced the rob bearing.

Like most things mechanical, none of them is maintenance free. If the body is rust free and at the right price, why not? Take care of it, it will keep you smile.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4575981
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Life's too short to suffer in an Accord or a Camry.

The car will be either BMW, Mercedes, Audi or a Range Rover.

Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4575991
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What, no Saab Turbo laugh


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Mr Nice] #4576012
11/16/17 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Buy an Accord or Camry for the same money.

LOL!

I'm waiting for the obligatory Crown Vic recommendation next.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576014
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Life's too short to suffer in an Accord or a Camry.

The car will be either BMW, Mercedes, Audi or a Range Rover.


cheers

Agreed.

BMW tended to use ITB's on the ///M engines but I don't think you'd be up against that on these. I know with the M62, there were issues with timing chain guide life, which was a really expensive fix, so that's something to watch out for.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576049
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BMW Audi Mercedes? Haha, no

No thanks!

I much prefer driving cars than wrenching on them all the time.

Last edited by Brybo86; 11/16/17 01:50 PM.

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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576059
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I've had BMW's off and on for years. They can be a bit more finicky than average. So I'd suggest either owning them under warranty, or having the skill to fix whatever might go wrong, or accepting that you will be paying someone who has the skill to do so. No, they aren't as trouble-free as some maintained Camry, but they offer a driving experience that no Camry ever will.

Mercedes and Audi are about the same as BMW, issues wise. Range Rover is worse.

Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Quattro Pete] #4576063
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Buy an Accord or Camry for the same money.

LOL!

I'm waiting for the obligatory Crown Vic recommendation next.

A Crown Vic isn't fancy enough for Alfred, he needs a Mercury Grand Marquis! crackmeup



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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576091
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What a bunch of goons.

On a 2010+ BMW V8, you need to be aware of: smoke on startup, timing chain noise, and secondly air codes.

Have a proper pre-purchase inspection performed by a BMW Service Center or reputable independent shop. Be up front! Tell them you need a PPI and you want them to be brutally honest.

Ensure that the N63 Customer Care Package has been performed or can be performed after purchase. A BMW Center can read the key to check.

Skip any Range or X5 with air suspension.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576129
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Alfred - Just found a pristine Series 7 for you. You can thank me later.

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/11/watch-bmw-7-series-brought-back-from.html


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576148
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Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Life's too short to suffer in an Accord or a Camry.

The car will be either BMW, Mercedes, Audi or a Range Rover.


You have fun with your choices, regardless of outcome.
Report back so we can all learn from your experiences, both good and bad. Shared knowledge is important.


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Re: BMW 4.4 and 4.8 liter V8 engines of 2010+ vintage [Re: Alfred_B] #4576170
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Yeah, currently I have a BMW Z4 and an Audi A6. The A6 is nearing its end of life at 210k miles so I'm preparing for when I need to get a replacement quickly.

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