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The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS #4575596
11/15/17 11:46 PM
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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4575626
11/16/17 12:48 AM
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Looks like Mobil Super Synish...Think its below M1 maybe.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4575655
11/16/17 02:14 AM
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It's below Mobil 5000, Mobil Special is guaranteed for 4K miles by XOM

It was touted as the replacement for Exxon Superflow.

IMO it's nuthin' special for a DIY retail motor oil choice but for an oil change business that sticks to the 3K miles / 3 months adage, maybe not a bad choice in bulk supply.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/ExxonMobilSpecial.htm

http://www.pqiadata.org/MobilSpecial5W30.html

Last edited by Nyogtha; 11/16/17 02:20 AM.

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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: Nyogtha] #4575675
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Yeah Nygotha it is just fine for short runs. TBN is good at 8.6 and the rest of the results look actually just fine as well. I ran some of this in my car and it did just fine.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4575717
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At $37/12 quart case at BJs, it's a great choice for those with normally aspirated vehicles adhering to severe service oil changes.



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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4576384
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Originally Posted By: wemay

At $37/12 quart case at BJs, it's a great choice for those with normally aspirated vehicles adhering to severe service oil changes.




Not really a good price for a low level dino, especially when you have to pay to shop there crzy

If it was $10 cheaper, it might be a decent buy.

Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4576681
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^^^ Yeah, it's nothing "special" and neither is the price. I've never used this oil before, and I see no reason to use it with all the other choices on the market.

Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4576692
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I agree with you Wemay that for $3.08 a quart is a decent deal. This oil is also approved Ford Ford Wss-m2c-946. Which means it has the same approvals has Castrol GTX, Pennzoil, and Mobil Super. This is the everyday price by the way. It has been on sale for $27.99 a 12 qt case. That makes it a very good deal at that price point.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4576747
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It's an OK oil - but it's easier and cheaper to just buy SuperTech dino at Walmart.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4576751
11/17/17 08:15 AM
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I don't know what makes it a "low level dino". If it's the VOA additive chemistry, Valvoline doesn't show anything special either but the UOA are as good as any other major. Other's would point towards Mobil Special's positioning in the Mobil line of products. That i agree with but it doesn't mean that all their oils aren't excellent.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4577494
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Mobil 5000 is guaranteed by XOM for 5K miles.

Mobil Special is guaranteed by XOM for 4K miles.

Ergo, Mobil Special is below Mobil 5000.

QED


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: Nyogtha] #4577511
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Not meaning to give you a hard time here Nygotha I just have a bit of a different take on this deal. That is true about the 5k for Super vs the Special. But really a 1k mile difference is not all that much of a "difference" at the end of the day. And as we all know here a UOA is the best way to tell if or how long an oil will be good for. And I'd bet Mobil Special would hold up longer than 4k miles in a number of applications. Just like Mobil Super was actually good for 12-14k miles for PSD's old Ford truck. Well, well past the hoopty Doo 5k miles of "warranty". The viscosity held up by very well, flash point was high and wear metals were low as Pennzoil Ultra. Again, I would bet Mobil Special would perform rather well past 4k miles in some applications as well. And we all question these "warranty's" made by the oil companies as well. Hard to take them but so seriously. These supposed "warranty mileages" really are just a advertising selling point /guide than anything else.

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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4577572
11/17/17 10:32 PM
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Good points, but wemay did ask for criteria for ranking. Thus re-stating the benchmarks used.

If XOM considered it a superior dino oil, wouldn't it have a higher warranty than their standard retail offering?

In any case I still have a big stash of $0.99 / qt QSUD to run from when I lived near a Menard's, so I personally no longer have a bone to pick in the conventional oil arena anyway. But I ran lots & lots of Exxon Superflow in my prior truck in SE Louisiana on 3K to 5K O/FCI without complaints. Mobil Special was advertised as its replacement, perhaps a stepping stone to Mobil 5000?

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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4577581
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My opinion here is that Mobil has too many product lines. Most oil companies run 3-4 lines. Of course more choice might be a better way for consumers but it can also confuse consumers as well.


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Re: The rarely seen Mobil Special, TDS [Re: wemay] #4577600
11/17/17 11:06 PM
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Here's Exxon Superflow for comparison. I ran cases of the 5W-30 in my wife's 1998 Trans Am and cases of the 10W-30 in my 2001 5.9L Ram 1500 Sport. I cleaned out our local rural Autozone when these were put on clearance.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/exxonlabelrevnew.htm

Mobil Special has more calcium but less moly. Exxon Superflow has lower NOACK.

Vis profiles look similar.

Same base stock? Who knows? One data point for Exxon Superflow and two for Mobil Special doesn't make for a comprehensive analysis.


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