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Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad #4575459
11/15/17 08:57 PM
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I heard a radio ad from Castrol promoting Edge EP today. “Why spend $50 for 5 quarts of annual oil, when you can get Castrol Edge EP with titanium for a lot less? It’s good for 15,000 miles.”

Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575462
11/15/17 09:00 PM
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But the AP is good for 20,000 miles, not 15,000 like the EP!

I was in the US last month. The AP was $39 at Walmart. Still too rich for my blood......


2015 Infiniti Q50
VAS 5W-30 + FRAM PH6607

2015 Nissan Murano
Mobil1 AFE 0W-20 + FRAM XG6607
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575487
11/15/17 09:21 PM
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I only do 6-8k mi/year (lots of short trips), I'm tempted to try and take the SynPower 0w20 I'm currently running to a year...which would be until mid August...

hopefully i can fight the itch that long...


Mine:
09 Mercury Sable : 6qts AutoQuest(Meijer/Warren) 0w20, WIX 51516
Mine to Maintain:
03 Pontiac Vibe : 4.5qts VWB 5w30,WIX 51394
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: sir1900] #4575525
11/15/17 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: sir1900
But the AP is good for 20,000 miles, not 15,000 like the EP!

I was in the US last month. The AP was $39 at Walmart. Still too rich for my blood......


With one small caveat or one year. The average driver drives his car 15K a year.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/15/17 10:11 PM.

2004 Corolla 124642
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575560
11/15/17 10:40 PM
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Cave City KY
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i average 21,000 per year i drove 1839 miles last month.


1994 Ford F150 302 4R70
Chevron Delo SAE 30 CF/SL Fram XG8A

1978 Chevy Nova 250 I6 Borg Warner T5
Rotella 10W40 Fram XG5

Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575573
11/15/17 11:08 PM
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People get stuck on things.Myself? I don't like Castrol or Pennzoil.Mobile 1 was tested on new GM products by engineers.My father helped them and Cadillac Northstar engines showed very little if any wear. A Big Cadillac dealer had only a few engine claims in ten years.None were because of the oil and none were mechanical problems. OIl is cheap.Change it twice a year.


2003 Dodge Caravan 140.000 miles
1992 Ford f-250 217,000 miles
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: jakewells] #4575618
11/16/17 12:33 AM
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Texas
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I average 7k miles on 15k oil … (going by OLM) …

Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: ron17571] #4575636
11/16/17 01:02 AM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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Well Pennzoil/Shell got Ferrari,BMW and Maserati approval and all three of them are superior to Cadillac so Ill stick with Sopus. Mobil 1 is a good oil,but its not any better than most other OTC synthetics.


15' Civic 179k.0w20 Redline/Archoil9100,Eibach,Yokohama/Borla Exhaust/Tein Suspension/Fu7317/Redline Si-1
Right to work state proud. Non union household
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Marco620] #4575650
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Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575658
11/16/17 02:33 AM
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Down Under
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While in Europe the standard OCI on A3/B4 or even C3 full synthetic oil is 20,000 miles or 2 years.
Why not just use M1 0W40 or Edge 0W30 / 0W40 ? they are all long-life Euro oils.



Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575688
11/16/17 06:05 AM
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The whole thing from both sides is a gimmick.

They bank on buyers not taking it to the full 15k/20k and just running it 1 year. This can be done with any oil.. they just don't want you to know this. You need an annual oil for this job.

The new cars that do have their OCI's creep up above 10k do just fine on any regular oil. Think about all the Chrysler Pentastar engines out there filled with dealer conventional bulk running to their OLM's full oil usage...

As we all know, an oil change this long should be backed by a UOA on anything else. I am betting the general public with older stuff are still too scared to go above 3k. They don't have to check/ top off their engines this way either.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 200k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: dlundblad] #4575693
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
The whole thing from both sides is a gimmick.

They bank on buyers not taking it to the full 15k/20k and just running it 1 year. This can be done with any oil.. they just don't want you to know this. You need an annual oil for this job.

The new cars that do have their OCI's creep up above 10k do just fine on any regular oil. Think about all the Chrysler Pentastar engines out there filled with dealer conventional bulk running to their OLM's full oil usage...

As we all know, an oil change this long should be backed by a UOA on anything else. I am betting the general public with older stuff are still too scared to go above 3k. They don't have to check/ top off their engines this way either.


Well said.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: Crispysea] #4575715
11/16/17 07:11 AM
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Don't you guys all think that AP and EP is the same M1 oil with a different label and marketing strategy??


2018 Chevy Silerado 3500HD 6.0L Gas: RLI 10w30
2010 Accord-LX K24: VSP 0w20/MaxLife 10w30 + LG BioTech HD
2014 CR-V LX K24: M1 0w30
Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: ron17571] #4575736
11/16/17 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: ron17571
People get stuck on things.Myself? I don't like Castrol or Pennzoil.Mobile 1 was tested on new GM products by engineers.My father helped them and Cadillac Northstar engines showed very little if any wear. A Big Cadillac dealer had only a few engine claims in ten years.None were because of the oil and none were mechanical problems. OIl is cheap.Change it twice a year.


Actually, the 3.6 GM engines were big oil burners.

Re: Castrol going after Mobil 1 AP in new ad [Re: ron17571] #4575836
11/16/17 10:07 AM
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Connecticut
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Connecticut
Originally Posted By: ron17571
.... Oil is cheap. Change it twice a year.


Actually, with the recent AAP QS clearances....oil was either free...or you were paid to buy it (after rebates). I guess you CAN change it twice per year. Well, maybe not the Mobil annual AP. I think I've seen that as low as $29.99 at my Walmart. grin


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
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