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filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! #4573519
11/14/17 08:06 AM
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Dubai
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Hi all, my next oil change i am going to try MANN FILTER W920/45,

but that 4 inlets makes me hesitant as it may restrict flow of this big engine, what do you think?








04 MercuryGrandMarquis, 330k miles, Castrol Magnetic 10w40, FL820s
11 LincolnTownCar, 35k miles, MC full synthetic 5w20, FL820s
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573524
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That does seem like a small amount compared to other filters. I would prefer more.


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Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: ZZman] #4573531
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That was original filter on my 2017 TURBO FORD ESCAPE power plant .

Last edited by LEADED; 11/14/17 08:20 AM.
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: ZZman] #4573561
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Hi ZZman
I agree, even filters designed for smaller engines have more inlets!
I am not sure what is the point here

BTW this filter fit LR3 2004-2009 according to MANN FLITER catalogue, distributed in Europe only I believe.

Last edited by Dubai_guy; 11/14/17 08:43 AM.

04 MercuryGrandMarquis, 330k miles, Castrol Magnetic 10w40, FL820s
11 LincolnTownCar, 35k miles, MC full synthetic 5w20, FL820s
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573566
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The total area of the four inlet holes looks to be equivalent to the interior of the main oil tube, so good to go.
Of course precise measurements would validate.


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Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: LEADED] #4573569
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yep this fits many ford engines, it replaces the FL820S.


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11 LincolnTownCar, 35k miles, MC full synthetic 5w20, FL820s
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573572
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Oh no, we must override the engineers intent! They are stupid, and will purposely market a filter that will restrict flow and damage your engine!
I suggest you go to the nearest drill press and make 4 more holes.

Good grief, so many chicken littles with their sky falling over filter holes and louvers, with zero damage done to engines anywhere.


beanoil: Tough under heat, real dirty afterwards.
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: beanoil] #4573581
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Dubai
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
Oh no, we must override the engineers intent! They are stupid, and will purposely market a filter that will restrict flow and damage your engine!
I suggest you go to the nearest drill press and make 4 more holes.

Good grief, so many chicken littles with their sky falling over filter holes and louvers, with zero damage done to engines anywhere.


those engineers did not list FORD V8 engines in the applications chart! but they do with other smaller engines that fit the fl820s!

Last edited by Dubai_guy; 11/14/17 08:57 AM.

04 MercuryGrandMarquis, 330k miles, Castrol Magnetic 10w40, FL820s
11 LincolnTownCar, 35k miles, MC full synthetic 5w20, FL820s
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: beanoil] #4573582
11/14/17 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
Oh no, we must override the engineers intent! They are stupid, and will purposely market a filter that will restrict flow and damage your engine!
I suggest you go to the nearest drill press and make 4 more holes.

Good grief, so many chicken littles with their sky falling over filter holes and louvers, with zero damage done to engines anywhere

Clearly you don't get it. The area of the of holes (or insert louvers here if you wish) doesn't matter, only the number.


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Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573583
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Originally Posted By: Dubai_guy
those engineers did not list FORD V8 engines in the applications chart!

OK, don't use it then.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: kschachn] #4573586
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Dubai_guy
those engineers did not list FORD V8 engines in the applications chart!

OK, don't use it then.


just edited my post


04 MercuryGrandMarquis, 330k miles, Castrol Magnetic 10w40, FL820s
11 LincolnTownCar, 35k miles, MC full synthetic 5w20, FL820s
Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573602
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I would bet those holes are at least 6mm flow each giving 24mm of inlet (the ones I just measured have 4.5x9mm holes inc the plate) and single 22mm outlet how can you have starvation?
This engine does not use a high volume or high pressure pump, a small 4 cylinder probably has more flow and pressure because of the RPM's they run at.


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Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573609
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Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573610
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The four hole M&H German made spin on is a standard design for them. As for restriction, I doubt it. As long as the total area of the inlet holes is equal to or more than the total area of the interior of the engine block filter mounting stud, shouldn't be an issue. My speculation would be that it is.

I suppose if you don't trust that, use a different brand filter.


Re: filter with 4 inlet holes for 4.6L V8! [Re: Dubai_guy] #4573622
11/14/17 09:33 AM
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Likely big enough. A new engine with less than 75~100,000 miles could prolly live with just one inlet hole the size of their four. In terms of gallons/min, engines just don't go through that much oil at cruise or in traffic.


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