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berryman engine oil extender #4573383
11/14/17 01:11 AM
11/14/17 01:11 AM
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Cave City KY
jakewells Offline OP
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I just noticed this on the berryman website not having seen it before thought i would share.

I looked over the SDS and found out what it contains but it is a foreign language to me.
Petroleum Oil... 64742-65-0... 45-55%
Polybutylene Succinimide confidential... 9-12%
Dialkylated Diphenylamine... 68411-46-1... 6-10%
Zinc Dialkyl Dithiophosphate proprietary... 2-5%
Organomolybdenum Complex proprietary... 1-2%
https://www.berrymanproducts.com/product...in-spreadsheet/
https://www.berrymanproducts.com/assets/X10-1210-SDS.pdf


1994 Ford F150 302 4R70
Chevron Delo SAE 30 CF/SL Fram XG8A

1978 Chevy Nova 250 I6 Borg Warner T5
Rotella 10W40 Fram XG5

Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573388
11/14/17 01:29 AM
11/14/17 01:29 AM
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S California
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Stick with the correct oil for your vehicle. Trust the manufacturer's spec's for the oil. Trust the oil to do its job without interference like this. Keep things simple.

Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573396
11/14/17 01:48 AM
11/14/17 01:48 AM
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Cave City KY
jakewells Offline OP
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i didn't say i was adding it to my oil


1994 Ford F150 302 4R70
Chevron Delo SAE 30 CF/SL Fram XG8A

1978 Chevy Nova 250 I6 Borg Warner T5
Rotella 10W40 Fram XG5

Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573428
11/14/17 04:57 AM
11/14/17 04:57 AM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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Snake oil in a colorful can.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573441
11/14/17 06:01 AM
11/14/17 06:01 AM
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ROCHESTER, NY
Char Baby Offline
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Thank you for trying. Yes, we understand that you're not adding it to your own oil/crankcase.

However, all of us having gained the knowledge from being members here at BITOG, we now know that these additives are marketing snake oils and you too will learn in time to only use the oils that belongs in your vehicle and leave it alone at that.

Before coming to BITOG, I didn't know, what I didn't know. Now I do!


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Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: Donald] #4573445
11/14/17 06:16 AM
11/14/17 06:16 AM
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Ontario, Canada
StevieC Online content
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Snake oil in a colorful can.
thumbsup

Powerful Wallet Lightener now with added "Feel Good". LOL

Last edited by StevieC; 11/14/17 06:16 AM.

'18 Highlander - AMSOIL SS 0w20 / ATF / Severe Gear
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573446
11/14/17 06:16 AM
11/14/17 06:16 AM
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Taiwan
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The contents list describes families of compounds that are all recognised oil additives, so it doesn't justify the knee jerk "snake oil" description.

It seems quite possible this stuff could replace some depleted additives and do some good.

However, these additives interact in complex, and sometimes negative ways which no one fully understands, and this stuff cannot have been tested against all the possible used oils that it could be mixed with, so its effects probably can't be confidently predicted.

This means you are probably better off spending your money on changing your oil.

Last edited by Ducked; 11/14/17 06:23 AM. Reason: insert "probably" before can't be confidently predicted. Cos I know what I don't know.
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: Ducked] #4573464
11/14/17 07:14 AM
11/14/17 07:14 AM
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Michigan
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The stuff is $13.50/can on Amazon. The shills on “Two Guys’ Garage” think it’s great . . . http://twoguysgarage.com/berryman-products-engine-oil-extender/

Last edited by khittner; 11/14/17 07:15 AM.
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573470
11/14/17 07:33 AM
11/14/17 07:33 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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Heck you could drain 2 quarts of oil and add 2 fresh quarts and achieve the same if not better effect. LOL What a scam!


'18 Highlander - AMSOIL SS 0w20 / ATF / Severe Gear
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573504
11/14/17 08:43 AM
11/14/17 08:43 AM
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Cave City KY
jakewells Offline OP
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well it certainly didn't convince me like those old motorup infomercials from years back....


1994 Ford F150 302 4R70
Chevron Delo SAE 30 CF/SL Fram XG8A

1978 Chevy Nova 250 I6 Borg Warner T5
Rotella 10W40 Fram XG5

Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573514
11/14/17 08:54 AM
11/14/17 08:54 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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If they had put it in a car and then drained out all the oil, took the rocker covers off and hit the engine with water and sand while it was running I would order it for sure. crackmeup


'18 Highlander - AMSOIL SS 0w20 / ATF / Severe Gear
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: StevieC] #4573526
11/14/17 09:10 AM
11/14/17 09:10 AM
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Michigan
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Heck you could drain 2 quarts of oil and add 2 fresh quarts and achieve the same if not better effect. LOL What a scam!


Well, Stevie, draining out only 2 quarts would be pretty messy (unless that was all that was left in the crankcase), but even a modestly-committed BITOGer could do a complete oil and filter change, with year-end clearance $2/qt. synthetic and a decent filter, for less.

Last edited by khittner; 11/14/17 09:11 AM.
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573546
11/14/17 09:32 AM
11/14/17 09:32 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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If you have a Fumoto Valve it's not that bad at all...


'18 Highlander - AMSOIL SS 0w20 / ATF / Severe Gear
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: jakewells] #4573570
11/14/17 09:46 AM
11/14/17 09:46 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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It is 2,000 to 5,000 PPM of ZDDP and healthy does of Moly. In a light Phos LE oil, this could be the answer for older flat tappet engines. Depends on what's in your stash ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: berryman engine oil extender [Re: StevieC] #4573635
11/14/17 10:53 AM
11/14/17 10:53 AM
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Nebraska
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Exactly, or even just change the filter. Oil extender?? LOL!! And I thought that Castro Magnatec with "smart molecules" was funny. How does one extend the oil??? Seriously??? LOL


2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using the cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.
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