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2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 #4573105
11/13/17 07:09 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573119
11/13/17 07:30 PM
11/13/17 07:30 PM
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The Midwest
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I've been using that exact same oil in my Lawn-Boy Duraforce push mower for years.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual

Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573126
11/13/17 07:36 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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My dad uses it in his 2-Stroke Weed-Eater


'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573165
11/13/17 08:21 PM
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Ceciltucky Maryland
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Cool demo. I used to run my old 2 cycle mix in my lawnmower, thinking that a little top lube would not hurt a Briggs. Now, based on the carbon buildup with a quart of 40/1, I will not do that again.

Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573174
11/13/17 08:28 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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I like his videos because you get to see the inside of the engine and he has no agenda, just wants to try stuff his user suggests. grin2


'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573184
11/13/17 08:34 PM
11/13/17 08:34 PM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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I would have liked to have seen him run a tankful of straight gas through it, after the 4:1 test, to see if all the residue would have burned off.


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573187
11/13/17 08:38 PM
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Reunion Island
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He used TCW3. I bet the results wouldn’t have been the same with another non TCW3 oil.


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573198
11/13/17 08:45 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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Comment on his YouTube channel and suggest it, he literally reads them all. Maybe he will try it. thumbsup


'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573238
11/13/17 09:22 PM
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Central Coast California
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I used to run a Honda 90 on 50/1 Av-gas mix for years. Plug fouled a bit quicker but I only kept one gas can around and I wasnt going to straight gas the chainsaw!


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573283
11/13/17 10:03 PM
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Waterloo, ON
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This is ridiculous...the base oil is the same, just a different additive package. This guy needs to quit with the youtube's and get a real job!


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573350
11/13/17 11:30 PM
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New Zealand
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More important, would 2 stroke oil work in a 4 stroke sump ?

Done it....but it wasn't my bike. Ended up with the engine though, and there was nothing wrong with it.


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573384
11/14/17 01:15 AM
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Many decades ago, my grandpa used to preserve engines for the winter with a 2:1 (gas & 30wt) oil mix.

Smoked a lot - but definitely kept everything lubed up for first fire in the spring again.


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573410
11/14/17 03:13 AM
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Back in middle school I played around with and old pushmower with a 3.5hp Tecumseh. It kept leaking oil so I said p1ss on it, leak all you want. I started running a 30 to 40:1 (approx.) fuel, 2 stroke oil mix. Knowing full well it wont lube the crankcase I ran it for quite some time. Obviously never leaked enough to kill it but finally the parents told me enough is enough and bought a new mower. I ripped the old girl down and it was surprising it still ran as there was so much carbon in the chamber.


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Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: StevieC] #4573461
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One thing to consider, much of that oil in the gas does not combust, and it ends up in the oil sump, contaminating the oil.


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: 2 Stroke Oil in 4 Stroke Engine 4:1 / 40:1 [Re: Linctex] #4573536
11/14/17 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Many decades ago, my grandpa used to preserve engines for the winter with a 2:1 (gas & 30wt) oil mix.

Smoked a lot - but definitely kept everything lubed up for first fire in the spring again.


I never bothered mixing oil in the gas, but when I've put engines in long-term storage (several years) I would set the engine to fast idle and then slowly pour 2-stroke oil or Marvel Mystery oil down the carb until I got a huge smoke show, then close the throttle and let it stutter out (or shut it off if it didn't voluntarily die). Then I filled the carb bowls with MMO through the vent tubes so that they wouldn't go dry.

The last engine I did that way was the 318 in my old 73 Satellite. It sat 5 years, and when I got rid of the car I had it back up running and on the road in 45 minutes (counting installing 4 tires and wheels and pulling it down off jack stands). Starting it was as easy as pumping the throttle to lower the level of MMO in the bowls, priming the bowls with a few shots of fresh gas from a squirt can, putting 5 gallons of fresh gas in the tank, hooking up a battery, and turning the key. Another smoke show, but running perfectly as soon as the oil cleared out.


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