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Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. #4572567
11/13/17 09:28 AM
11/13/17 09:28 AM
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Ct. Usa
Bigbill Offline OP
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Years ago the gallon of Mobil Delvac 1300 15/40 said it was for diesel and gasoline engines. I purchased Mobil Delvac for my garden tractors, estate mowers, farmall cub tractor. I use the 15/40 during the summer. Butswitch toa 10/40 in my tractors that I run In the wintertime. Since it doesn’t say for gasoline engines I emailed the engineers at Mobil. They said to continue to use it.

I just thought if anyone was wondering why the15/40 delvac didn’t say for gas engines anymore on the label. Food for thought.
Ever tractor I have earns it’s keep. No shed queens here.

I been using Mobil super 10/40 since I was 15yo. I’m 67yo now. Right now in my Subaru’s it’s mobil synthetic oil.

Last edited by Bigbill; 11/13/17 09:29 AM.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572575
11/13/17 09:34 AM
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They dropped the gas engine rating because of EPA/CARB requirements. It has to do with Phos and Zinc levels and Catalytic Converters ... If you see any of these heavy duty diesel engine oils with a JASO MA rating (motorcycles) you know they are good to use in gas/petrol equipment smile

The oil is still fine for use in off-road equipment. But, do to on-road regulations, they are not seeking a gas engine rating any more ...

See this thread for similar discussion: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...SM?#Post4536605 laugh

Last edited by BrocLuno; 11/13/17 09:37 AM.

Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572595
11/13/17 09:56 AM
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it's not good for modern converters.


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Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572598
11/13/17 10:01 AM
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I am not sure but is there emission parts in garden equipment?


  • 2017 Toyota Sienna
  • 1995 GMC Suburban 6.5L Turbo Diesel


Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572616
11/13/17 10:26 AM
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Delvac 1300 is CK-4/SN and that means a max 800 ppm of phosphorus. I haven't looked at a bottle, but the PDS says that it is indeed a universal oil. I believe that PQIA also tested it and their results confirmed the low ZDDP levels.

You don't have to worry about poisoning catalytic converters any more with the Delvac 1300 oils. The other Delvac oils..? I've lost track and not sure about them. The same goes for the new Delo CK-4 oils. They're also SN rated with low phosphorus.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 104k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572626
11/13/17 10:35 AM
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1925 Alvis HDEO 15W40
1937 Alvis Speed 25 20W50 w LM MoS2 & LM MOS
1970 VW Peking - Paris Rally Beetle HDEO 15W40 w LM MoS2
1987 Porsche 924S HDEO 15W40
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572689
11/13/17 11:24 AM
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Midwest, Illinois
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D1300 was a great oil for diesels, maybe not so much any more, with the dual rating and reduced Z&P.
Perfectly fine for OPE and cars that take a 40 weight.
IMO, selling less to diesel owners has caused the price to bottom at WM. Down to 10.49 a gallon, just a tick above their SuperTech offering, which, BTW, looks much better on paper at this point.


beanoil: Tough under heat, real dirty afterwards.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: beanoil] #4572722
11/13/17 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
D1300 was a great oil for diesels, maybe not so much any more, with the dual rating and reduced Z&P.
Perfectly fine for OPE and cars that take a 40 weight.
IMO, selling less to diesel owners has caused the price to bottom at WM. Down to 10.49 a gallon, just a tick above their SuperTech offering, which, BTW, looks much better on paper at this point.


New D1300 CK-4 works great in my 7.3 PSD.......... UOA


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1990 Nissan 300zx - Castrol Edge Euro 0W-40
2004 Nissan Quest - Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40
2003 Ford Excursion 7.3 PSD - Mobil 1 TDT 5w-40
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4572726
11/13/17 11:44 AM
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upstate NY
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In response to my own post above, the non ILSAC grades (like 15W40 and 5W40) are still allowed higher phosphorus, right? I mean they can still claim SN with the older (higher phos) formulas assuming that the oil actually does pass the SN tests. I wasn't too concerned about such, so I could be wrong. Either way, Delvac 1300 is now a lower ZDDP oil.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 104k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4573128
11/13/17 06:42 PM
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One of the good alternatives is Chevron Delo 400 15W-30 SD (severe duty) which is an off-road oil for heavy equipment and not required to meet the low Phos limits. Last time I checked it was still 1,200 PPM laugh

You can order it online, and if you buy enough it's free shipping and no sales tax smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: beanoil] #4573232
11/13/17 08:14 PM
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Builder approvals?


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Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4573353
11/13/17 10:34 PM
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For 30 year old garden tractors ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4573377
11/13/17 11:48 PM
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Delo 400 SD SAE 15W-30 is approved for:

• API Service Categories CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, SM
• Cummins CES 20081
• Detroit Diesel DDC Power Guard 93K218
• DEUTZ DQC III-10 LA
• Mack EO-O Premium Plus
• MAN M 3575
• MB-Approval 228.31
• Renault VI RLD-3
• Volvo VDS-4

Delo 400 SD SAE 15W-30 is recommended for:
• Caterpillar ECF-3

So it's not like it's an odd ball oil or anything ... laugh

Product Data sheet here: https://cglapps.chevron.com/sdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=413394&docFormat=PDF smile

Last edited by BrocLuno; 11/13/17 11:50 PM.

Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: BrocLuno] #4573413
11/14/17 02:24 AM
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Delo has been posted and I asked about ST approvals since someone thinks it’s as good as the big players have…


Who approved it?
ST= $9.44 … Delvac = $10.97 … Delo = $12.57 …


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2017 Chevy Tahoe LT 4WD
2014 Fusion Hybrid Titanium
2013 Cruze LTZ - RS Turbo
Re: Delvac 1300 15/40 in gas engines. [Re: Bigbill] #4573553
11/14/17 08:37 AM
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There are enough approvals of all these for a 30 year old garden tractor. If the OP wants 1,200 PPM ZDDP, the list gets shorter ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
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