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#4572317 - 11/12/17 11:00 PM Seafoam Question
RoGuE Offline


Registered: 02/05/08
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
I've had a bottle of Seafoam sitting around for a while and wanted to try it on my Malibu to see if it will help with some oil consumption and rough idle. It's not a lot but it's almost a quart down after 5000 miles, but it has never used any oil before. I'm planning on changing my oil very soon as well, so I figured I might put some in the oil as well before changing it. I've used Seafoam a couple times in other other cars. It helped in one case but not the other so it's worth a shot.

Anyway, I was planning on using the brake booster line like is usually directed, but on my car it seems like the brake booster vacuum line goes directly into one of the intake runners which isn't very helpful. There is another line that goes from the valve cover directly to a part right before the throttle body. I was wondering if this will work well to suck the Seafoam in to the intake.

This particular line is part of a non serviceable PCV valve (built in to the valve cover) and recently I have noticed that there is oil seeping around the end of the hose so I know there is probably some build up of oil in the intake. I just want to make sure this will work okay for what I'm planning to do. Here are a couple photos showing what I am referring to: https://imgur.com/a/aq7hs
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#4572324 - 11/12/17 11:08 PM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
Linctex Offline


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Need to pour a little sea-foam into the "non-serviceable" PCV valve as well, while you are at it.
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#4572336 - 11/13/17 12:02 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
oilmutt Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
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Loc: Connecticut 06033
I love how clean your engine looks,I try to keep our 05 6cyl Malibu the same way,i see you have me beat!
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#4572415 - 11/13/17 06:25 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1345
Loc: Toronto Canada
I have the same engine, oil consumption has increased from 1qt/8,000m at 100,000 miles to 1qt/2,800m at 196,000 miles. Seems to be the nature of the beast. Low tension rings maybe?

The line from the valve cover to intake is the line to use for seafoam. At idle, the engine should want to draw air into the valve cover if the PCV system is operating properly. You can feel this with your finger if you block the opening to the valve cover but don't do this for too long as you will create a vacuum in the crankcase and draw ambient air in around the engine seals. I don't think pouring seafoam into the valve cover port will really clean the PCV system as the seafoam will just mix with the oil in the top of the head.

Adding seafoam to the intake, via this valve cover line, would be the best way to "treat" the engine but this will set a trouble code as air/seafoam is entering the engine without passing the MAF sensor.

An overly dirty air filter can cause a higher than usual vacuum in the intake tube which will draw excess crankcase vapours into the engine from the valve cover area. You might want to check that first.

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#4572427 - 11/13/17 06:59 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
StevieC Offline


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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Put it in a spray bottle and spray it against the throttle plate with the RPM at 1500-2000. Clean the Throttle Body at the same time.
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#4572523 - 11/13/17 08:51 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
FastLane Offline


Registered: 12/10/14
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Loc: MB - Manitoba
Your overly long oil changes is why your engines use oil. My FIL just parked a Malibu with 435,000 kms on it. Doesn’t use any oil. Oil changed every 3000 miles/5000 kms since new.
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#4572544 - 11/13/17 09:09 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
My Santa Fe didn't use any oil when it died at 535,000km (300K miles) on 10,000km (6,000 mile) oil changes. I would have pushed the OCI further but the engine was really hard on oil so I couldn't.
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#4572558 - 11/13/17 09:21 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
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Loc: Toronto Canada
Or, we could stay on topic. The use of Seafoam.


Edited by WobblyElvis (11/13/17 09:23 AM)

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#4572569 - 11/13/17 09:29 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
GMBoy Offline


Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 7702
Loc: Texas
I would run something stronger than Seafoam. Use Berrymans B12 Chemtool.

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#4572581 - 11/13/17 09:38 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: WobblyElvis]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
Or, we could stay on topic. The use of Seafoam.


It was pointed out that the OCI's were the problem and implied that Seafoam was not needed, I was pointing out that I don't think that is the case based on my experience. How is that "Off Topic" shrug



Edited by StevieC (11/13/17 09:53 AM)
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#4572585 - 11/13/17 09:45 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: GMBoy]
Bigbill Offline


Registered: 11/01/17
Posts: 6
Loc: Ct. Usa
I put seafoam in the crankcase and gas tank at the same time. Seafoam is also a upper lube too. It lubes the valve guides, valve seats, frees and reseats stuck piston rings. By the time I need fuel again the idle has smoothed out, the idle is a higher rpm. The engine seems to be happy, happy, happy. My generator had a gummed up carb. I added seafoam tothe gas tank and forgot about it. Months later we fired it up and the carb was cleaned.

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#4572613 - 11/13/17 10:22 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: Bigbill]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9398
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: Bigbill
I put seafoam in the crankcase and gas tank at the same time. Seafoam is also a upper lube too. It lubes the valve guides, valve seats, frees and reseats stuck piston rings. By the time I need fuel again the idle has smoothed out, the idle is a higher rpm. The engine seems to be happy, happy, happy. My generator had a gummed up carb. I added seafoam tothe gas tank and forgot about it. Months later we fired it up and the carb was cleaned.

Sounds like amazing stuff, makes you wonder how anyone gets by without it.
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#4572736 - 11/13/17 11:53 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: kschachn]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 6576
Loc: Hudson, NH
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Bigbill
I put seafoam in the crankcase and gas tank at the same time. Seafoam is also a upper lube too. It lubes the valve guides, valve seats, frees and reseats stuck piston rings. By the time I need fuel again the idle has smoothed out, the idle is a higher rpm. The engine seems to be happy, happy, happy. My generator had a gummed up carb. I added seafoam tothe gas tank and forgot about it. Months later we fired it up and the carb was cleaned.

Sounds like amazing stuff, makes you wonder how anyone gets by without it.

I use it in gas for non catalytic small engine applications like my snowblower and lawn mower. Thats what it was created for way back in 1932, a sick wet boat engine. Similar to a sta-bil. The other claimed applications, like fogging your auto engine's intake and catalyst with white clouds of pale oil are silly.
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#4572738 - 11/13/17 11:56 AM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: FastLane]
RoGuE Offline


Registered: 02/05/08
Posts: 680
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted By: oilmutt
I love how clean your engine looks,I try to keep our 05 6cyl Malibu the same way,i see you have me beat!

Haha, I could lie but I must admit these photos are from 2007 when I purchased the car. I do keep it very clean so it looks similar, only the coolant and brake fluid reservoir are a little yellowed.

Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
I have the same engine, oil consumption has increased from 1qt/8,000m at 100,000 miles to 1qt/2,800m at 196,000 miles. Seems to be the nature of the beast. Low tension rings maybe?

The line from the valve cover to intake is the line to use for seafoam. At idle, the engine should want to draw air into the valve cover if the PCV system is operating properly. You can feel this with your finger if you block the opening to the valve cover but don't do this for too long as you will create a vacuum in the crankcase and draw ambient air in around the engine seals. I don't think pouring seafoam into the valve cover port will really clean the PCV system as the seafoam will just mix with the oil in the top of the head.

Adding seafoam to the intake, via this valve cover line, would be the best way to "treat" the engine but this will set a trouble code as air/seafoam is entering the engine without passing the MAF sensor.

An overly dirty air filter can cause a higher than usual vacuum in the intake tube which will draw excess crankcase vapours into the engine from the valve cover area. You might want to check that first.


The difference is I have only 54k miles on mine. It's never used any oil before until now. I changed it in January and shrug
I wouldn't expect the valve cover side to be drawing in air. Okay, I'll add it through this line into the intake. If it sets a code I have a scantool I can use to clear it.

The air filter shouldn't be dirty. I replaced it maybe a year ago and I don't really drive in dusty environments, but I'll give it a check.

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Put it in a spray bottle and spray it against the throttle plate with the RPM at 1500-2000. Clean the Throttle Body at the same time.


Maybe I'll spray down a little on the TB plate first and then run the rest through the line.

Originally Posted By: FastLane
Your overly long oil changes is why your engines use oil. My FIL just parked a Malibu with 435,000 kms on it. Doesn’t use any oil. Oil changed every 3000 miles/5000 kms since new.


I don't think you will find many on here including myself that thinks a 5k mile OCI is long, especially with Pennzoil Platinum in there. If I followed the GM OLM in the car it would take me to around 8k miles or more.
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#4572757 - 11/13/17 12:13 PM Re: Seafoam Question [Re: RoGuE]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Yeah that sounds fine...
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