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#4572028 - 11/12/17 05:00 PM ACDelco PF64 - pics
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
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Loc: Great White North.. eh
This filter was on my ATS, maybe 300km. They dealer put the wrong oil in the ATS so I swapped it out, hence the mileage on the filter.

I'll admit, I used to be a big filter snob, and probably still am. I wasn't expecting much from an ACDelco.

However, this is a really well made filter. Pleats were tight and strong all around up to the seam.

ADBV was pliable, the can was quite thick. Overall it was heavy and held a lot of oil.

Looks like a wix design with the top end bypass. Can anyone confirm the manufacturer of this filter?

If GM really does have a 22 psi bypass on this filter, is there an aftermarket equivalent?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/twpjd1nojr5jcvc/AAAM7D38_2pprMmcCCPsWtN_a?dl=0
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#4572041 - 11/12/17 05:14 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
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Loc: Southwest PA
Looks good, thanks for c&p smile
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#4572060 - 11/12/17 05:30 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
gabriel9766 Offline


Registered: 05/10/15
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Loc: Missouri
My last 4 oil changes I've uses acdelco ph64's on my 2.5L ecotec. Cut open each one and they have looked perfect. Im on my last one right now i got off rockauto. Next 2 oil changes will be with napa golds.
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#4572222 - 11/12/17 07:57 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
NormanBuntz Offline


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I thought they were made by Champion Labs.
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#4572328 - 11/12/17 11:23 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
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The holes don't look like Wix. More like Champ. Good either way, nothing wrong with ACDelco filters.
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#4572400 - 11/13/17 05:56 AM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: dogememe]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
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I am left with the impression that AC Delco puts their name on good stuff.

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#4572477 - 11/13/17 08:00 AM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
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Loc: The Old North State
It's a Champ Labs made filter. Thread end bypass a Champ design found on some M1 filter applications. Also circular compression spring a Champ Labs design. Afaik Champ makes all ACDelco OFs including the factory filter.



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#4572875 - 11/13/17 01:47 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2337
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Champion Laboratories patented the base end bypass back in 1959 according to their web site.

http://www.champlabs.com/company/about-champion-laboratories/

It was a feature on the pre-Ecore STP filters I used to use.
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#4573009 - 11/13/17 04:29 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 4955
Loc: Great White North.. eh
y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.

That center tube is classic Champs.

Any comments on the 22psi bypass of this filter? I counted the pleats and there are **52 pleats** on this filter. That's a lot of media area regardless of whether it's a depth media or not. I suspect the XG10060 that's on there now has maybe half of that.
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#4573025 - 11/13/17 04:39 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
Patman Offline



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This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)
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#4573031 - 11/13/17 04:46 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Patman]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
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Originally Posted By: Patman
This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)


By a Cadillac and they'll throw them in for free for 4 years, including all regular maintenance grin

When that runs out I'll run across the border and pick them up as you suggested.

I haven't shopped for them, but I've heard members get them dirt cheap at RockAuto.
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#4573085 - 11/13/17 05:44 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Patman]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24764
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: Patman
This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)

I miss those days when our Walmarts had them. Are there any independents there that sell them? We have at least one here that does, but I haven't checked the AC pricing. They also sell Wix, and I get a jobber rate, so it's all good.
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#4573092 - 11/13/17 05:54 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2337
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: webfors
y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.



Like this?

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#4573190 - 11/13/17 07:40 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Nyogtha]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
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Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
Originally Posted By: webfors
y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.



Like this?




LOL
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#4573230 - 11/13/17 08:12 PM Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2337
Loc: San Antonio, TX
The antidote for too much jugging


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