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ACDelco PF64 - pics #4572028
11/12/17 06:00 PM
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Great White North.. eh
webfors Offline OP
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This filter was on my ATS, maybe 300km. They dealer put the wrong oil in the ATS so I swapped it out, hence the mileage on the filter.

I'll admit, I used to be a big filter snob, and probably still am. I wasn't expecting much from an ACDelco.

However, this is a really well made filter. Pleats were tight and strong all around up to the seam.

ADBV was pliable, the can was quite thick. Overall it was heavy and held a lot of oil.

Looks like a wix design with the top end bypass. Can anyone confirm the manufacturer of this filter?

If GM really does have a 22 psi bypass on this filter, is there an aftermarket equivalent?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/twpjd1nojr5jcvc/AAAM7D38_2pprMmcCCPsWtN_a?dl=0


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572041
11/12/17 06:14 PM
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In the shop
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Looks good, thanks for c&p smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572060
11/12/17 06:30 PM
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My last 4 oil changes I've uses acdelco ph64's on my 2.5L ecotec. Cut open each one and they have looked perfect. Im on my last one right now i got off rockauto. Next 2 oil changes will be with napa golds.


2015 Malibu LT 2.5L PPPP 0w20 46.1K
2007 Escape XLT 3.0L 5Q STHM 5w30/1Q MC full syn 5W20 115K
2010 Fusion SE 2.5L MC 0w20 110K
2008 Escape XLT 2.3L MC 5w30 187K
2007 Fusion SE 2.3L- 173.5K STHM 0W20
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572222
11/12/17 08:57 PM
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I thought they were made by Champion Labs.


2017 Honda Odyssey SE, 16K
2013 Honda Accord LX, 58K
2007 Honda Ridgeline RTS, 88K
2007 Infiniti M35, 107K
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572328
11/13/17 12:23 AM
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The holes don't look like Wix. More like Champ. Good either way, nothing wrong with ACDelco filters.


2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly oils.
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: dogememe] #4572400
11/13/17 06:56 AM
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I am left with the impression that AC Delco puts their name on good stuff.

Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572477
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The Old North State
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It's a Champ Labs made filter. Thread end bypass a Champ design found on some M1 filter applications. Also circular compression spring a Champ Labs design. Afaik Champ makes all ACDelco OFs including the factory filter.



Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4572875
11/13/17 02:47 PM
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Champion Laboratories patented the base end bypass back in 1959 according to their web site.

http://www.champlabs.com/company/about-champion-laboratories/

It was a feature on the pre-Ecore STP filters I used to use.


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Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4573009
11/13/17 05:29 PM
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Great White North.. eh
webfors Offline OP
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y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.

That center tube is classic Champs.

Any comments on the 22psi bypass of this filter? I counted the pleats and there are **52 pleats** on this filter. That's a lot of media area regardless of whether it's a depth media or not. I suspect the XG10060 that's on there now has maybe half of that.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4573025
11/13/17 05:39 PM
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This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)


2018 Corvette (M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold)
2006 Civic EX Coupe (PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra)
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive (GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra)

Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Patman] #4573031
11/13/17 05:46 PM
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Great White North.. eh
webfors Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Patman
This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)


By a Cadillac and they'll throw them in for free for 4 years, including all regular maintenance grin

When that runs out I'll run across the border and pick them up as you suggested.

I haven't shopped for them, but I've heard members get them dirt cheap at RockAuto.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Patman] #4573085
11/13/17 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Patman
This is the exact filter that comes on my 2018 Corvette and I plan on running it for future oil changes, at least as long as it's under warranty. I can get them for around $6.50 at Walmart when I travel to the US (Canadian Walmarts stopped carrying AC Delco years ago, and the dealer charges way too much) Does anyone know of a cheaper source for them? (not that $6.50 is going to break the bank, but if I found out someone else has it for $4 I'd definitely go there instead)

I miss those days when our Walmarts had them. Are there any independents there that sell them? We have at least one here that does, but I haven't checked the AC pricing. They also sell Wix, and I get a jobber rate, so it's all good.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4573092
11/13/17 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: webfors
y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.



Like this?



"No matter how paranoid you are you're not paranoid enough. Tell the truth. Reach as many people as you can with it. That's your weapon." - Susanne Modeski, aka "Holly" to The Lone Gunmen
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: Nyogtha] #4573190
11/13/17 08:40 PM
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Great White North.. eh
webfors Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
Originally Posted By: webfors
y'all are jugging (jogging, juggling... errr.. you know what I mean) my memory.



Like this?




LOL


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: ACDelco PF64 - pics [Re: webfors] #4573230
11/13/17 09:12 PM
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The antidote for too much jugging




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