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a 3rd millennium problem #4571811
11/12/17 01:21 PM
11/12/17 01:21 PM
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Marshfield , MA
andyd Offline OP
andyd  Offline OP
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Marshfield , MA
Dear group. I have all the stuff to do my first oil change on my Camry, except a new drain plug washer. Should I run out to the local AZ and buy some? If this was any one of my previous vehicles I wouldn't even consider a new washer. But they were all from the last millennium. I welcome your discussion grin2


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571814
11/12/17 01:23 PM
11/12/17 01:23 PM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Kalifornia Kollective
Old one and a little Black RTV smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571821
11/12/17 01:25 PM
11/12/17 01:25 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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MTL, CANADA
You can get 10 of em from online for cheap. Id get the OEM ones. Replace every oil change.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571822
11/12/17 01:29 PM
11/12/17 01:29 PM
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MI
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MI
What type is it? The copper mash rings I used to get were one-time use (hollow/folded perimeter), however the aluminum ones that dealers seem to be giving out these days are solid and I use them at least twice before they become uncomfortably deformed. Been doing this for the last 4 oil changes with no issue so far - that doesn't make it right though.

EDIT - just read it's the first OC, so without knowing what type they used, I would have a spare handy.

Last edited by HorseThief; 11/12/17 01:30 PM.

I saw a brown dog
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571847
11/12/17 01:57 PM
11/12/17 01:57 PM
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Texas
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Texas
The one on my drain plug is.....5 or 6 years old....never leaks a drop.

just sayin.

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: unclescotty] #4571857
11/12/17 02:04 PM
11/12/17 02:04 PM
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Orlando, FL
Mr Nice Offline
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Orlando, FL
Originally Posted By: unclescotty
The one on my drain plug is.....5 or 6 years old....never leaks a drop.

just sayin.


200k miles and no leaks...

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571867
11/12/17 02:11 PM
11/12/17 02:11 PM
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Michigan
ZZman Online content
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Michigan
If not leaking previously no worries.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Motul 7100 10w-40 and K&N
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571892
11/12/17 02:30 PM
11/12/17 02:30 PM
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Columbus,Nebraska
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Columbus,Nebraska
Those aluminum drain plug gaskets can be reused but will eventually work harden and will finally leak. I purchased a box of 12mm gaskets and replace them every oil change.

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4571918
11/12/17 02:57 PM
11/12/17 02:57 PM
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NJ
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NJ
I buy them for $1 each off Amazon. Either order some or reuse the one you have. Just don't over tighten the plug and break the washer.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP)
2004 Corolla 125,000 miles
2004 Rav4 370,000 miles
2015 Camry 70,000 miles
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: Mr Nice] #4571933
11/12/17 03:15 PM
11/12/17 03:15 PM
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Wet side WA
JohnnyJohnson Offline
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Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: unclescotty
The one on my drain plug is.....5 or 6 years old....never leaks a drop.

just sayin.


200k miles and no leaks...


The one on my Corolla started just weeping at 100K. Replaced it good for another 100K would be my guess.


2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: Rolla07] #4571990
11/12/17 04:11 PM
11/12/17 04:11 PM
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ME
eljefino Offline
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ME
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
You can get 10 of em from online for cheap. Id get the OEM ones. Replace every oil change.


I got about 50 fiber washers on ebay for a few bucks. Love 'em. Wouldn't pay a buck each though. wink

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4572090
11/12/17 06:04 PM
11/12/17 06:04 PM
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Southeastern, PA
Rick in PA Offline
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Southeastern, PA
I get three changes on our Kia Sorento with a solid aluminum washer before I change it. Never had a leak.


A wise man told me:
"Heat is your friend." and "Any oil is better than no oil."
Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4572159
11/12/17 07:05 PM
11/12/17 07:05 PM
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Clovis, CA
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Clovis, CA
It depends on whether your drain plug gasket is reusable or not. Weird thread title. crazy

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: Merkava_4] #4572202
11/12/17 07:35 PM
11/12/17 07:35 PM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
Kira Offline
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
A pal gave me cloth backed, sintered brass and man-made diamond abrasive belting. It was used by machinists who trued HUGE shafts in a factory.

I use the stuff to flatten aluminum or copper drain plug gasket washers.

Never had a leak.

I LOVE the way aluminum feels as it yields. Just did one today.

Re: a 3rd millennium problem [Re: andyd] #4572225
11/12/17 07:58 PM
11/12/17 07:58 PM
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Iowa
Aichiguy Offline
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Iowa
I've been driving Toyotas for 15 years and have never replaced a drain plug gasket. Maybe because I've never overtightened the drain plug? What would cause one to fail?


2017 Toyota Camry 2.5
2011 Toyota Camry 2.5 75k
2003 Toyota Camry 2.4 201 k
1999 Ford F150 4.6 70k
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