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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570198 11/10/17 07:12 PM
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thee who votes decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything.


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570218 11/10/17 07:34 PM
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In our last election, because it was young people against old farts, they were hoping for a ''youthquake'', get all those young people voting. A lot more young voters got out to vote, but not the numbers they were hoping for. When I was young in the '60's and '70's, it was all about revolution and change, and we voted to help bring about change. Young people are so apathetic now, they have even lost hope.


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570219 11/10/17 07:37 PM
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Young folks voting for hope and change are in for a rude awakening...

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: Reddy45] #4570220 11/10/17 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Blockchain based online voting would bring voting up to 21st century standards. Public ledger, vote from a mobile device or a PC, and 1 citizen = 1 vote.


If by 21st century standards, you mean network outages, corrupted networks and lost information (votes), then you're right.
Voting in most states is just so darn easy these days, with no-fault absentee ballots and early voting that I see little reason for anyone not to exercise their right to vote.
When I voted Tuesday morning before heading to work, there were more poll workers on site than voters and there was a vast array of barely used voting machines.
No hardship for anyone responsible enough to vote, and it is a matter of personal responsibility.


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: Mr Nice] #4570226 11/10/17 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Young folks voting for hope and change are in for a rude awakening...


I seen a poll recently that showed that young Americans admire Mao and Stalin....the school system is really doing a good job at brainwashing our youth....


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570230 11/10/17 07:54 PM
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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570234 11/10/17 07:57 PM
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Voting is very interesting to me. I am not sure everyone who votes is actually qualified enough or spends the time to learn enough about what they are voting for.

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: hpb] #4570236 11/10/17 07:58 PM
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Voting is compulsory here. If it wasn't, I'd expect similarly low voter turnout.


Agreed...although I'm interested in the return rate on the latest postal ballot.

Having to attend doesn't mean that you can't make a (feeble) stand at the polling booths. I've voted "none of the above" before. I've also run for local council to try to effect change.

And years ago had a girlfriend who counted ballots...she got giggles out of reading protest votes.

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: Bud] #4570272 11/10/17 08:41 PM
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I have always voted but people have a right to gripe and complain whether they vote or not. I have always heard that phrase of if you don't vote you don't have the right to complain. Don't buy into that [censored]. It is called freedom to voice your opinion.


I agree with you.....voting doesn't give you the right to complain. Free speech does.

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: pbm] #4570276 11/10/17 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Young folks voting for hope and change are in for a rude awakening...


I seen a poll recently that showed that young Americans admire Mao and Stalin....the school system is really doing a good job at brainwashing our youth....


This purported poll was probably agenda based nonsense since very few young people or even adults know anything of either Mao or Stalin and I'm not aware of any school that teaches their virtues.
Mao can be best remembered for his Cultural Revolution, which killed and imprisoned many and Stalin for having murdered millions of his own citizens.
Other than that, both were pretty good guys.


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: madRiver] #4570287 11/10/17 08:58 PM
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Voting is very interesting to me. I am not sure everyone who votes is actually qualified enough or spends the time to learn enough about what they are voting for.


I bet you yourself are just above the imagined qualifications cutoff line though! smile

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570313 11/10/17 09:52 PM
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First time ever.............I did not vote for da prez. Couldn't bring myself to even vote for better bad one. Cheers1


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Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: oldhp] #4570314 11/10/17 09:53 PM
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First time ever.............I did not vote for da prez. Couldn't bring myself to even vote for better bad one. Cheers1


Something like 4.5 million voters avoided that bumper crop of winners compared to previous!

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570319 11/10/17 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Blockchain based online voting would bring voting up to 21st century standards. Public ledger, vote from a mobile device or a PC, and 1 citizen = 1 vote.


If by 21st century standards, you mean network outages, corrupted networks and lost information (votes), then you're right.
Voting in most states is just so darn easy these days, with no-fault absentee ballots and early voting that I see little reason for anyone not to exercise their right to vote.
When I voted Tuesday morning before heading to work, there were more poll workers on site than voters and there was a vast array of barely used voting machines.
No hardship for anyone responsible enough to vote, and it is a matter of personal responsibility.


You missed the part about using a blockchain. Public ledger of votes. Read about it if you don't know what it is.

Re: Don't vote? Don't complain: Not a political thread [Re: fdcg27] #4570329 11/10/17 10:08 PM
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I believe that the number of people NOT voting speaks volumes. There should be a choice of “none of the above” in every election. Yes there is the write in vote available sometimes, but forcing a “do over” would send a very clear message.

Preidential elections: I will vote again when they get rid of the electoral college. With that system in place, our votes can be circumvented. It was necessary in 1776 but not today.


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